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  1. #1
    Player
    Vid's Avatar
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    Iggi Wunohwun
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Currently waiting to even start investing materia into mine for 3 main reasons.

    1. I already have my Yagrush, and while the stats fully upgraded for the relic would prove to be better, the amount of time & materia invested would personally not be worth it to me.

    2. The added Mind and Spell Damage from the Turn 9 weapon is still superior to the amount of Determination you would gain from the relic, and for those of us raiding, it's only a matter of time, with no money spent (unless you count repair bills).

    3. I worry for what they will do in the next installment of the Relic Quest. Will the stats reset entirely, and go back to whatever? Did all that materia grinding even do anything? I'm always skeptical of what square does for these quests because we have no idea what they plan to do, and judging from their sporadic change on this particular quest, I can only guess what the next quest will entail.

    Although personally speaking I would go for Determination & Piety. Mostly because my current gear is factored around that very notion, and even if I added Crit, Spell Speed, or Accuracy to my relic, the amount I added would be so miniscule I wouldn't notice any difference.
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Finished my Thyrus Novus last night. I went +29 Piety, +24 Determination and +22 Spell Speed.
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    Rena Cebe
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    Did any SCH put accuracy on their Novus? I'm not sure how much the 18(?) extra more would benefit. I definitely do not want to spend millions on grade IV materia...

    Also if you put accuracy on it, does it override the already existing 8 (or 9 with Novus) points? I that case would it be more beneficial to put Piety or Spell Speed on it?
    The accuracy cap for casters is 490 on T9 I believe, which I'm far away from of course but if it can reduce the misses, that would be great. ^.^
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    I personally don't really see any value in Acc for SCH, since (unless I am mistaken), our DoTs are guaranteed to hit. and that is what we are going to be DPSing with almost all the time.
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    Dudude Dude
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
    Did any SCH put accuracy on their Novus? I'm not sure how much the 18(?) extra more would benefit. I definitely do not want to spend millions on grade IV materia...

    Also if you put accuracy on it, does it override the already existing 8 (or 9 with Novus) points? I that case would it be more beneficial to put Piety or Spell Speed on it?
    The accuracy cap for casters is 490 on T9 I believe, which I'm far away from of course but if it can reduce the misses, that would be great. ^.^
    The accuracy cap for turn 9 is 471 for us, not 490. It's 490 for summoners because they have to worry about pet misses, which aren't an issue for scholars. You can actually also put up to 35 more accuracy in there, with the accuracy being added on top of the base accuracy it already has. I have an omnilex novus with +44 crit and +40 accuracy this way, 9 of the accuracy is just from the base item, 31 came from the materia I melded.

    Note that an accuracy melded novus by itself won't be enough to get you the accuracy cap. You'll need to support it with a combination of some crafted items melded with materia and food that gives accuracy. I personally don't need food right now because I have i90 crafted jewelry with accuracy to get me to that cap naturally.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    I personally don't really see any value in Acc for SCH, since (unless I am mistaken), our DoTs are guaranteed to hit. and that is what we are going to be DPSing with almost all the time.
    Bio, Bio II and Shadow Flare don't miss, but Miasma, Aero, Energy Drain and Ruin can all miss. Miasma in particular I find valuable to get to a point where it can't miss because it's one of the stronger DoTs, and it also has some nice utility in the form of the slow it applies. Energy Drain never missing is also nice since it'll give you more MP to work with.

    I'd also personally say that due to the nature of adding DPS as a SCH having the accuracy cap is more valuable than it appears on first sight, since there are plenty of situations where you only have a few GCDs to apply spells before you can't for a while because you need to heal. Being able to rely on Miasma and Aero hitting during these kinds of periods is pretty large gain in the amount of damage you add.
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    Last edited by DududeDude; 08-08-2014 at 09:03 PM.

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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Skipped atma and all that bollox and got a unweathered weap. Life feels good.
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Ah ok, I did not realise Miasma and ED could miss, as I have never seen it happen to me. Thanks for the correction

    and to the above poster: Good for you :P now why are you in this thread? haha.
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    My SCH novus:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1169001/

    It is not optimised because I could not afford more Det and Crit and I wanted the upgrade now while we train for T9 so that will be my book until T9 book drops

    Crit +36
    Det +26
    Spell Speed +13 (could not care less about this stat but wanted the weapon asap for upgrade in MND and VIT)
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    My SCH novus:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1169001/

    It is not optimised because I could not afford more Det and Crit and I wanted the upgrade now while we train for T9 so that will be my book until T9 book drops

    Crit +36
    Det +26
    Spell Speed +13 (could not care less about this stat but wanted the weapon asap for upgrade in MND and VIT)
    Why not Piety then? Surely it's better than SS, which it's completely useless alone.
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    Renary Devarian
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    Ravana
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    White Mage Lv 100
    ive got 5 alex's to go woo

    I went with pie/det and the rest to crit...31/33/11
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