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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Then that GM doesn't know what they're talking about. I could be there with my own group, knowing that some huge zerg is incoming. But as long as they have not claimed the mob, it's there for anyone to take.

    Or, you interpreted it wrong.
    GMs are payed to know these things it's their job, if you don't believe me open a support ticket and ask yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    I had a GM say that pulling early repeatably knowing people are coming is considered a griefing tactic because it's the same reason resetting mobs is against ToS and considered a griefing tactic. It's because it "interrupts the progress of other players".
    The horde is always coming. Always.

    So pulling when I want to, because I see the mob, the one right there in front of me, that no one is fighting, is as reportable as intentionally actually fucking over someone else's work, simply because the horde is always otw? I fail to believe you. And frankly, shame on you for reporting someone in the first place for that.

    If what you say is true, then the Hunt system is dead to me.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    GMs are payed to know these things it's their job, if you don't believe me open a support ticket and ask yourself.
    Yet how come they're not always correct? GM info has been proved wrong on a few occasions. I still think you're simply misinterpreting what was said in the first place.

    In fact, re-reading your post, specifically this part:

    I had a GM say that pulling early repeatably
    Makes me almost sure you misunderstood. ie pulling and resetting to make sure no one else can claim it until the mob gets there. But still, if you pull an unclaimed mob, hunt or not, you have done nothing wrong. The ONLY thing they MIGHT get you on is you have chat logs saying you agreed to player rules, ie waiting for others to get there and didn't. But without that, there is nothing wrong with it.
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    Last edited by ispano; 07-29-2014 at 02:45 AM.

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Yet how come they're not always correct? GM info has been proved wrong on a few occasions. I still think you're simply misinterpreting what was said in the first place.

    In fact, re-reading your post, specifically this part:



    Makes me almost sure you misunderstood. ie pulling and resetting to make sure no one else can claim it until the mob gets there. But still, if you pull an unclaimed mob, hunt or not, you have done nothing wrong. The ONLY thing they MIGHT get you on is you have chat logs saying you agreed to player rules, ie waiting for others to get there and didn't. But without that, there is nothing wrong with it.
    I'm talking about people who pull mobs repeatably to deny people credit for the kill. I never said I wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    I'm talking about people who pull mobs repeatably to deny people credit for the kill. I never said I wasn't.
    That's not what we've been talking about though. I will concede and just say your wording wasn't the best, perhaps English is not your first language. It was easily interpreted as you saying someone just pulling and killing while knowing a group was on the way was reportable, which it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    I had a GM say that pulling early repeatably knowing people are coming is considered a griefing tactic because it's the same reason resetting mobs is against ToS and considered a griefing tactic. It's because it "interrupts the progress of other players".

    Yeah mann, I'm going to attack this unclaimed ladybug in North Shroud. Going to pull this mob suuuuppppppeeerrrrrrrr earrrlllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and HOPEFULLY I won't get reported.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    That's not what we've been talking about though. I will concede and just say your wording wasn't the best, perhaps English is not your first language. It was easily interpreted as you saying someone just pulling and killing while knowing a group was on the way was reportable, which it isn't.
    My wording is perfectly fine, you simply misunderstood. When I started using words like "repeatably" and "griefing" you should have gotten the point.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    My wording is perfectly fine, you simply misunderstood.
    No, you didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    I had a GM say that pulling early repeatably knowing people are coming is considered a griefing tactic because it's the same reason resetting mobs is against ToS and considered a griefing tactic. It's because it "interrupts the progress of other players".
    Your words, and I'm not even correcting mistakes, can mean more than one thing because it's not clear. When you make a statement like this, especially if it can be seen multiple ways if worded poorly, you have to be clear about what you said. What you said could easily be read as "Pulling before a group that's coming in arrives is griefing" regardless of how you yourself saw it when you wrote it.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No, you didn't.



    Your words, and I'm not even correcting mistakes, can mean more than one thing because it's not clear. When you make a statement like this, especially if it can be seen multiple ways if worded poorly, you have to be clear about what you said. What you said could easily be read as "Pulling before a group that's coming in arrives is griefing" regardless of how you yourself saw it when you wrote it.
    Please look up the word griefer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    Please look up the word griefer.
    You do realize that the people in the big Hunt LS' consider people who pull early, griefers, right? In fact on many servers, even if you're not part of their group and you pull early they threaten to blacklist you and other such things. It's ludicrous to be sure, but we really don't need misunderstandings to give them ammo, as useless as it would be.
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