this is getting Ridiculous

[xenosuke1]

How is it fair that people can just steal the aggro from hunts and reset the monster and get full mark but the group who found it gets jack squat. this seriously needs to be changed its not fair and its getting real stupid. jus the other day me and my firends found an a rank we got it half way down then here comes a big train of ppl, one tank takes the aggro and resets it then it gets killed in a matter of a few seconds and me and my friends dont get anything.

[saeedaisspecial]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

[Canadane]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

I have to disagree.
While saying it "isn't fair" isn't the right choice of words, it's in no way a requirement to let the entire server build up before each and every hunt mob.

[AzakaTonnerre]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

If you think they intended for a group to shout and wait for 100 people from the zone to come kill a rank B mob, or even A, when they created hunts you really need to re-evaluate your thought process.

What is fair is that the party that found it fights it and kills it. Not that they shout and wait for the mob and risk not getting any credit (or partial credit). If others come they do. That was how it was explained before it was released and that was the intention of system in the first place before everyone decided to over-camp the hell out of it because it's rewards render almost everything else useless. If people want to call it out, great, I hope they do and in general when I do hunt parties we do call it out. But given what happens, I do not blame them for fighting it when they discover it, and find nothing unfair about it.

[Sygmaelle]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

Its written hunt, not hey please lets share it all. People blamin others for just playin the game shouldnt even bother to begin with.

And its not like A ranks arent respawnin a couple of hours later.

I wish people would relax and realise that they can hunt for 2 - 3 more months so missin some mobs here and then is not the end

[saeedaisspecial]

Its written hunt, not hey please lets share it all. People blamin others for just playin the game shouldnt even bother to begin with.

And its not like A ranks arent respawnin a couple of hours later.

I wish people would relax and realise that they can hunt for 2 - 3 more months so missin some mobs here and then is not the end

With that logic, OP shouldn't be mad either too right? It's not like they couldn't wait a couple of hours either. Hell like you said, they have 2-3 months to farm hunts.
What's the point of your post?

please explain to me how i am in the wrong? how it is fair for them to steal the monster reset it and me and my grp who found it waited for people to join even notified ppl that it was up, gets it stolen and we only get 2 out of the 20 seals we should of gotten tell me how is that fair and we are inthewrong

How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

[xenosuke1]

With that logic, OP shouldn't be mad either too right? It's not like they couldn't wait a couple of hours either. Hell like you said, they have 2-3 months to farm hunts.
What's the point of your post?



How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

you need to stop assuming we never shouted it out we did, so stop asumin we didnt, but the big grp still reset it and instead of gettin 20 seals we only got 2 so no we are not selfish these big ls grps are

[saeedaisspecial]

you need to stop assuming we never shouted it out we did, so stop asumin we didnt, but the big grp still reset it and instead of gettin 20 seals we only got 2 so no we are not selfish these big ls grps are

So you shouted out to let people know it was up, then pulled anyway without waiting? Wow, you practically invited them to do this then.

[Kuwagami]

With that logic, OP shouldn't be mad either too right? It's not like they couldn't wait a couple of hours either. Hell like you said, they have 2-3 months to farm hunts.
What's the point of your post?



How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

They found it, didn't share it, and the horde came and stole it.
There is no sharing obligation. With the last "fix", Bs are designed for 4 people, As are designed for 8 people. If 8 people decide to kill a A rank on their own, the horde has no right to complain. The horde didn't find it (or used radars, but I don't think you want to advertize such behavior, right ?), but the group did. Whoever come after has no right to complain, just as you people "OMGmustzergthemarkcantwait" are usually pulling the mobs before people could come.

I can't count the number of S rank that died before I could even see them, because some LS decided that THEY had waited enough. And yeah I was here before the pull each time. Even the one time I found a S rank by myself, a LS just came and pulled it with no regards at all for the scout (aka : me).


But meh, I already gave up on NA/EU hunting community. No respect for those who find the target, no respect for their choice about when to pull (if the horde ever let them pull themselves...), and constant flaming/bashing because "OMG we were less than 50 on that B rank you useless PoS you're screwing our hunt"

"Your hunt" ? Bah, I'll come back when you have all retired or grown up. Maybe after 2.4

edit :

So you shouted out to let people know it was up, then pulled anyway without waiting? Wow, you practically invited them to do this then.

You people should learn from JP servers :

=> a group finds a mark
=> they advertize
=> they pull when THEY find there is enough people
=> people who couldn't get there in time call it a fair game and go hunting somewhere else.


in NA/EU :

=> a radar finds a mark (sometimes a real person comes across one)
=> they advertize
=> people flame/bash everyone who pulls early and keep resetting the mob, even if they never found the target themselves
=> the mark is pulled by some random LS based on a timer they decided on their own, screwing the guys who might have found the mark
=> mob is zerged by 20 times the amount of people needed, most of them not even seeing the mark
=> initial group is screwed, little groups are screwed, LS pat on their back thinking they did great and are truly the warrior of lights, the Heroes of Eorzea by zerging a tiny mole/bat/whatever

I would comment something. But I can't take you seriously at all with that broken English.

Oh yeah, everyone posting in English forums is a native, how rude of us to post here

[saeedaisspecial]

They found it, didn't share it, and the horde came and stole it.
There is no sharing obligation. With the last "fix", Bs are designed for 4 people, As are designed for 8 people. If 8 people decide to kill a A rank on their own, the horde has no right to complain. The horde didn't find it (or used radars, but I don't think you want to advertize such behavior, right ?), but the group did. Whoever come after has no right to complain, just as you people "OMGmustzergthemarkcantwait" are usually pulling the mobs before people could come.

So much wrong.
Clearly, someone from the horde found it, otherwise they wouldn't have shown up.
Also, on our server we wait for everyone we know is coming to show up before pulling. If you're still on the way, it's literally as easy as shouting "I'm omw please wait before pulling" in the zone, and people wait. We co-ordinate to do it, there are people that have gone to great lengths and spent a lot of RL money setting up a TS so people can all share and get as many people credit as possible. There's always people shouting at hunt sites inviting people to linkshells and giving out the TS info so people can join and also get credit.
You don't even have to join a linkshell or anything to be included.

The OP literally disregarded all that and said "no one but my group matters". If that isn't rude or selfish, when a lot of people are trying to make sure everyone gets credit, I don't know what sort of morality system you're using.