this is getting Ridiculous

[Sadana]

Hunts are still broken and I'm surprised that SE doesn't see it. The JP side must not be complaining at all. Is there anyone who reads that forum that can confirm their take on the matter? I tried to run it through Google translate but spent more time laughing than seriously parsing what they were saying.

On my server at least we have the zerg rush, but if there is any negativity I couldn't tell. There is an 83-pager on hunts over there if someone wants to take a look.... Google Translate on the last few pages turned up

"What is the term, I do not want to say too bad, but this is might have been a bad move." (read with a grain of salt.)

Original here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...6262-モブハントについて

[Alukah]

Original here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...6262-モブハントについて

Reading that using Google was painful, but it looks like most of the thread is complaining about hunts ruining other parts of the game (the core issue with the hunt), not much about zerging or people griefing.

[Souljacker]

Because we aren't beaten into submission and actually express our thoughts when something is so broken it excludes others arbitrarily and for no good reason?

If JP side truly thinks that hunts are perfect as they are, then that explains why SE doesn't care. They will never change something just because NA\EU thinks it's a problem.

[ispano]

Because we aren't beaten into submission and actually express our thoughts when something is so broken it excludes others arbitrarily and for no good reason?

If JP side truly thinks that hunts are perfect as they are, then that explains why SE doesn't care. They will never change something just because NA\EU thinks it's a problem.

No, it's because JP players play it the way it was intended to be played.

[Nestama]

No, it's because JP players play it the way it was intended to be played.

Which is to fight the B's or A's as your Full Party without calling out the mobs existence for the zerg, correct? I'm honestly thinking of just announcing an A mob has spawned (if I find it first), but "accidentally" forget to add the location. I'll most likely get hated for it, but meh. If that's how it's intended, then no one should complain. I will report people resetting the mob, though :P

Still think having them require a pop item would be better.

[ispano]

Which is to fight the B's or A's as your Full Party without calling out the mobs existence for the zerg, correct? I'm honestly thinking of just announcing an A mob has spawned (if I find it first), but "accidentally" forget to add the location. I'll most likely get hated for it, but meh. If that's how it's intended, then no one should complain. I will report people resetting the mob, though :P

Still think having them require a pop item would be better.

You don't even need a party for a B. The only change they made was give them more HP, they're very easily soloable, just takes a bit longer than before.

And the thing about pop items, is it turns it from open world content to something that's not. And the problem with true open world content, is if the rewards are too good, you will run into the issue we have now.

[Nestama]

You don't even need a party for a B. The only change they made was give them more HP, they're very easily soloable, just takes a bit longer than before.

And the thing about pop items, is it turns it from open world content to something that's not. And the problem with true open world content, is if the rewards are too good, you will run into the issue we have now.

Oh, you know what I mean~ I found it, my kill and all that jazz~

Well I'm mostly focusing on that if the mobs were pop item required, then the marks can be as difficult as dungeon/raid bosses and innocent bystanders won't have to worry about the potential one hit KO skills. As for the rewards, Oils, Sands and UAT's will no longer be able to be bought and instead become a potential loot item upon the mobs death (rare drop from B's and A's. High drop from S's though, since getting their pop item could be tricky).

[Clavaat]

No, it's because JP players play it the way it was intended to be played.

We need to keep the call outs to your immediate FC/friends. Stop saying it in 100+ member LS', stop putting it into /sh. For the first week or two, it's one thing, when everyone is trying to learn how they work. We know how they work now. If you see it, it's yours to claim. If someone running by happens to see, they join in. That's it. The NA community is making it so much harder than it needs to be.

EDIT: Frankly, this is what most "Hunt LS'" have started to do anyway. They have smaller numbers, and don't shout.

[Kuwagami]

Because we aren't beaten into submission and actually express our thoughts when something is so broken it excludes others arbitrarily and for no good reason?

If JP side truly thinks that hunts are perfect as they are, then that explains why SE doesn't care. They will never change something just because NA\EU thinks it's a problem.

so much cliche it must hurt to say such things.

JP people are just way more respectful than westerners. Thus no hate/flame war in JP servers because of hunts. Thus no problem due to the horde.


On a side note, EU/NA think the hunt is a problem because they ripped it off so much it lost all its meaning. NA/EU hunt is totally botched by players' attitude, not by the system itself

[Nukocafe]

Thus no hate/flame war in JP servers because of hunts. Thus no problem due to the horde.

They rage and flame on 2ch so they can rage anonymously and not get banned on the forums.