this is getting Ridiculous

[saeedaisspecial]

the thing is you dont realise alot of ppl are tired of getting crap credit, me and my friends have waited, alowed pl to show up but instead of getin full cred we get crap, it dies so fast that we just cant get enoughdmg in, alot of ppl are tired of waitin for these hunts to spawn, alot of ppl are tired of having thier hunts steamrolled becuase of these large grps

Then you clearly weren't putting in enough effort. That isn't the groups fault, that is your own. If the huge groups can all manage to get full or mostly full credit in every hunt (and the majority of them do) then that's all on you for not being able to manage it too. I can still manage to get full credit in parties of 4 at hunts, and on my tank I can get full credit solo at times.

A lot of people in this thread need to learn this phrase.
When it's common practise on a server to do things a certain way, you should go along with that and if you choose not to, then don't cry about the repercussions because you ignored it.

[xenosuke1]

With that logic, OP shouldn't be mad either too right? It's not like they couldn't wait a couple of hours either. Hell like you said, they have 2-3 months to farm hunts.
What's the point of your post?



How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

you need to stop assuming we never shouted it out we did, so stop asumin we didnt, but the big grp still reset it and instead of gettin 20 seals we only got 2 so no we are not selfish these big ls grps are

[saeedaisspecial]

you need to stop assuming we never shouted it out we did, so stop asumin we didnt, but the big grp still reset it and instead of gettin 20 seals we only got 2 so no we are not selfish these big ls grps are

So you shouted out to let people know it was up, then pulled anyway without waiting? Wow, you practically invited them to do this then.

[Kuwagami]

With that logic, OP shouldn't be mad either too right? It's not like they couldn't wait a couple of hours either. Hell like you said, they have 2-3 months to farm hunts.
What's the point of your post?



How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

They found it, didn't share it, and the horde came and stole it.
There is no sharing obligation. With the last "fix", Bs are designed for 4 people, As are designed for 8 people. If 8 people decide to kill a A rank on their own, the horde has no right to complain. The horde didn't find it (or used radars, but I don't think you want to advertize such behavior, right ?), but the group did. Whoever come after has no right to complain, just as you people "OMGmustzergthemarkcantwait" are usually pulling the mobs before people could come.

I can't count the number of S rank that died before I could even see them, because some LS decided that THEY had waited enough. And yeah I was here before the pull each time. Even the one time I found a S rank by myself, a LS just came and pulled it with no regards at all for the scout (aka : me).


But meh, I already gave up on NA/EU hunting community. No respect for those who find the target, no respect for their choice about when to pull (if the horde ever let them pull themselves...), and constant flaming/bashing because "OMG we were less than 50 on that B rank you useless PoS you're screwing our hunt"

"Your hunt" ? Bah, I'll come back when you have all retired or grown up. Maybe after 2.4

edit :

So you shouted out to let people know it was up, then pulled anyway without waiting? Wow, you practically invited them to do this then.

You people should learn from JP servers :

=> a group finds a mark
=> they advertize
=> they pull when THEY find there is enough people
=> people who couldn't get there in time call it a fair game and go hunting somewhere else.


in NA/EU :

=> a radar finds a mark (sometimes a real person comes across one)
=> they advertize
=> people flame/bash everyone who pulls early and keep resetting the mob, even if they never found the target themselves
=> the mark is pulled by some random LS based on a timer they decided on their own, screwing the guys who might have found the mark
=> mob is zerged by 20 times the amount of people needed, most of them not even seeing the mark
=> initial group is screwed, little groups are screwed, LS pat on their back thinking they did great and are truly the warrior of lights, the Heroes of Eorzea by zerging a tiny mole/bat/whatever

I would comment something. But I can't take you seriously at all with that broken English.

Oh yeah, everyone posting in English forums is a native, how rude of us to post here

[Drakuaza]

I would comment something. But I can't take you seriously at all with that broken English.

[xenosuke1]

So you shouted out to let people know it was up, then pulled anyway without waiting? Wow, you practically invited them to do this then.

here you are assuming again, we did we waited till they spawned in then we attacked cause we knew if we didnt get some dmg in we would not get full cred, then hunt was barely even close to 90% health left by the time the train got there so there was plent of health left for the train to attack and get full cred so no we were not selfish we waited we shouted but wht did we get hmm we got it thrown in our faces for bein nice for shoutin it out, so no you can word it however you want, assume whatever you want but you and your so called this is how it shoud be done is extremely selfish and your forcing your opinons and your views onto others, im done tryin to be nice and im tired of getting nothing for it

[saeedaisspecial]

They found it, didn't share it, and the horde came and stole it.
There is no sharing obligation. With the last "fix", Bs are designed for 4 people, As are designed for 8 people. If 8 people decide to kill a A rank on their own, the horde has no right to complain. The horde didn't find it (or used radars, but I don't think you want to advertize such behavior, right ?), but the group did. Whoever come after has no right to complain, just as you people "OMGmustzergthemarkcantwait" are usually pulling the mobs before people could come.

So much wrong.
Clearly, someone from the horde found it, otherwise they wouldn't have shown up.
Also, on our server we wait for everyone we know is coming to show up before pulling. If you're still on the way, it's literally as easy as shouting "I'm omw please wait before pulling" in the zone, and people wait. We co-ordinate to do it, there are people that have gone to great lengths and spent a lot of RL money setting up a TS so people can all share and get as many people credit as possible. There's always people shouting at hunt sites inviting people to linkshells and giving out the TS info so people can join and also get credit.
You don't even have to join a linkshell or anything to be included.

The OP literally disregarded all that and said "no one but my group matters". If that isn't rude or selfish, when a lot of people are trying to make sure everyone gets credit, I don't know what sort of morality system you're using.

[LunarEmerald]

when it get resets ur progression on it resets as well and if u got a big ass ls grp tht reset it it will die in a mater of seconds so no u wont have time to get enought hits on it

This is never the case. Not even with Ss. Your group composition is either terrible or something else if 8 people can't get full credit on something.

With a huge group of people, it takes at least 10 seconds for a B to die since they increased their HP. If all 8 people get in 4 attacks, that's enough for full credit.

Also.. Leviathan is not exactly a small server. It's one of the largest US ones.

Going by xivsoul

Exodus 103195
Famfrit 102563
Brynhildr 102006
Lamia 100208
Faerie 97224
Gilgamesh 93486
Behemoth 93061
Siren 92981
Leviathan 91653

[Wulfyn]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

Your logic just justifies what you do right? Ever hear of good sportsmanship? The point is they found it first they were killing it. The other group could have joined in and be done with it. Instead they stole hate and reset the NM, that is griefing and dirty behavior. If it is a soloable NM there is no excuse for you to say well, you should have been in a group. Again excusing poor play by other players. There is no justifying interfering with someone elses gameplay because you feel entitled to steal a mob to reset it for your benifit. Excuses excuses excuses for poor players.

[saeedaisspecial]

Your logic just justifies what you do right? Ever hear of good sportsmanship? The point is they found it first they were killing it. The other group could have joined in and be done with it. Instead they stole hate and reset the NM, that is griefing and dirty behavior. If it is a soloable NM there is no excuse for you to say well, you should have been in a group. Again excusing poor play by other players. There is no justifying interfering with someone elses gameplay because you feel entitled to steal a mob to reset it for your benifit. Excuses excuses excuses for poor players.

There is no justification for screwing over people you know are on the way. Both parties were in the wrong in this situation.
At least the result allowed more people to earn credit than if no reset had occurred.

I have no idea why so many people are defending what was a selfish decision to screw over a group of people that were on their way.