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  1. #1
    Player
    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by xenosuke1 View Post
    well there is that too, but they could just take out the logs and myth
    No, please no. I've said this on another similar thread: This would mean that those who pushed others aside in order to get the most rewards from hunts benefit from their behavior; nice guys who waited and decided not to fight back lose out. I would prefer that everyone who does something in a fight gets credit. This would help those on ps3s too, since they can't target what they can't see.
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    Mettaur's Avatar
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    Espelir Kontos
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As others have said a simple claim system (like XI) or a cap on seals/oils would easy fix this "situation" that the hunts produced.
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    actually fixing glamour cost would fix this system., 1 piece of glamour cost more seals then a sand. I mean a peice of i70 gear cost the same amount of points it would cost to put 2 jobs in full i90 gear. WTFFF!!!!!!!! how does i70 gear cost 30X( yes 30x not exaggerating that) of i90 gear? including accessories a full set of i90 gear with AS cost at most 400 seals. thats 400 seals to take a job to i90. but to take a job to i70 cost over 5000 seals. i90 cost 300 i 70 cost 5000. I mean WTF seriously.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 07-28-2014 at 01:59 PM.

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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    As it stands, being a "casual" I have yet to get the weekly, the NMs are so over camped and farmed. No one especially hunt ls's want to say when the ToD is let alone allow non members the right to their full weekly credit it seems.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfyn View Post
    As it stands, being a "casual" I have yet to get the weekly, the NMs are so over camped and farmed. No one especially hunt ls's want to say when the ToD is let alone allow non members the right to their full weekly credit it seems.
    dito ! I dont bother with those things, people are generally rude, selfish and mostly crazy over some marks in a pixel game supposes to be a relaxing way to spend some time enjoying some fantasy.

    Mei
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    Tsunenori's Avatar
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    Shima Kyaro
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I feel like the amount of frustration in this thread is a testament to just how badly this system needs to be adjusted and rethought.

    According to my achievements I've participated in a grand total of 6 Hunt kills since the patch dropped: 1 S rank, 2 A ranks, and 3 B ranks. Aside from the S rank (which was the first and last time I ever want to participate in one of those), the others were all discovered happenstance while doing something in the world with a group of friends. All 5 were pulled without announcing anything to a zone/linkshell/teamspeak, and all 5 were killed as intended for the intended reward. And you know what? It was fun. It's a nice little bonus to just stumble across one of those while you're out doing your thing and to get a few friends to take it down.

    The sheer amount of vitriol and hatred that's been born of these Hunts however clearly isn't in the spirit of fun, and it's why inevitably something will change just as Dark Devices was changed for encouraging the same type of behavior. I believe the expression is "win some, lose some" rather than "win some, lose some and proceed with death threats."
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Could someone explain how they Reset it?

    I don´t get it, the Monster does not react to provoke when not pulled (funny to watch all the time).
    Does this Change when pulled? and as far as i noticed, provoke puts you first in Aggro list of your Group, always seems it doesn´t work on other groups... (but OK, obviously do in Hunts)...

    Nontheless, I am happy of hunts ... especially after a session this week when another player got 2 Books, said his record were 7(!!) on one Day, with 2 Books on 2 A-Ranks...
    Some people really know how to flirt with the RNG,...

    Then it is fact, that you can only Hunt A-Ranks and just on a certain off-peak time of the day.. as when the Horde rises to 200+ People, even on PC the Marks beginn to vanish...

    So i was thinking, this is really the easy way up to i110 by no skill and only timesinking, thus totally eliminating the worth of this for me. (when i hit Full-90 with my first two classes, this felt awesome)...

    So after finishing my one and only to be Novus last week, i totally lost drive, and didn´t sign on for more than 2 Hours this weekend.

    So this horrible system did one thing great, then eliminating my need to sign-on on a daily basis... there is nothing left to "achieve", which isn´t doable by grinding anyway.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Could someone explain how they Reset it?
    WHM on pull : Medica2, Cure3, swift + cure 3 and run away. Mob reset.


    Some LS are specialized and have teams of 5-6 i110 WHM to do that
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Isn´t this gettin ridicoulous? ah yes, the Topic states it ^^
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post



    When in Rome, do as the Romans do. You don't go to another country and disregard their rules and customs. You abide by them.
    They chose to not go along with the servers established preference for handling hunts. That is their choice and their consequences to suffer.
    Who gave you the right to decide how the entire server plays?


    You're missing the point completely btw. I don't have to follow your LS/FC/TS/covent etc rules, because I am not a member. You can't make the entire Server follow the made up rules you all came up with. SE didn't say we had to kill these mobs in groups of 100+ players. SE didn't say, they expect the entire server to descend upon them like a fat kid on a birthday cake. SE said these were for small bands of adventures to claim and kill together. They fully intended for maybe a group of 3-4 people to see a mob, and maybe /FC or /l or even /sh and a couple more ppl would come (as in like 4-10 not 400), and join in. SE didn't even say 'you must wait for all to arrive' If someone is killing a mark, and you join in, and do enough damage, guess what? You get the full reward. I've done it. So resetting because someone happens to have it at 70% health really is a nasty, toxic thing to do. If you start attacking it, you'd get credit plain and simple. If the 100's of others didn't get there in time. Too bad. That's how life works, be there on time, or miss out.

    As to resetting once some one does claim it...SE DOES have a stance on that. It's punishable. If it can be proven, you reset a mob with malicious intent, you'll get a GM on your case. Keep doing it, and you'll likely receive a suspension/ban from the game.

    So, if you wanna be a good roman soldier, drop the act.

    If you want the claim, be there first. If you miss it, put on your big-girl panties and either /assist those killing it and mop up what points you can, watch them die (if they bit off more than they can chew) and you want to 'punish' or move on to something else.

    But in no way shape or form does your 'group' get to decide how the rest of us play. You can decide how YOU all want to play, but leave everyone else out of it.

    You're not 'noble' you're not 'helping the server' you're leeches. You're ruining it...the fun, the community, the game....all so you can have some new shinies. (because lets be real, that's the only reason you all do this...you don't find it 'fun' or challenging...watching paint dry is more fun) You want your shinies....and this is the easiest way to do it....take what you can, by any means necessary. But your group doesn't exist to be 'helpful'...at least not to others. It was just a way of 'controlling' the server just enough to get what all your greedy little hands want....and when you get what you want, you'd all sooner point and laugh at some poor bloke soloing a Rank B than help him. Because when you all get what you want from this content, you'll go leech something else. It's what leeches do.
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