Limit Break in PvP

[Shake0615]

Here's another way to think about it: if there are 3 alliances of 3 parties each that get roughly 2 Limit Breaks a match then that means you have 18 potential one-shot kills if you use melee level 1. You won't have 18 healers in that entire battlefield so that means that every healer is likely to get one-shotted multiple times in the same match. With multiple caster Limit Breaks then casualty rate is even higher because they're mostly used when full parties are defending flags. Frankly, I think that's ridiculous.

[Divinemight]

Frankly, I think that's ridiculous.

That is your own PoV, it is quite different from majority's PoV. There is a flaw in your theory. Not all GC would have their meeles use LB on the healer, there are a lot chance that LB is reserve for 200 points drone. Some of LB will be used during the battle over the nodes: BLM use it then have Bards aoe down after. Some of LB will used by rogue/lonewolf players that is trying to stealing the outpost. LB is fine, it is part of the game.

[Divinemight]

Of course it's my point of view.

Here is the trick. Out of all jobs, there are two jobs will not get one shot by lvl1 Brave..... Warriors and Paladins, because they would use defensive CDs. The lesson to be learn is, dont trigger happy your instant casts. Limit break reading is about 3s to 4s, you have enough time to isntant cast stoneskin on yourself to filter that damage.

[Shake0615]

Here is the trick. Out of all jobs, there are two jobs will not get one shot by lvl1 Brave..... Warriors and Paladins, because they would use defensive CDs. The listen to be learn is, dont trigger happy your instant casts. Limit break reading is about 3s to 4s, you have enough time to isntant cast stoneskin on yourself to filter that damage.

Realistically, that's not possible. In order to do that I would need to burn Swiftcast (1.5 sec hidden CD) then use Stoneskin (1 sec before it's applied to target) then factor in lag and a reasonable human reaction time and you're well over the cast time of a level 1 Limit Break which is 2 seconds. And you can only read your enemy's cast bar IF your current target is the melee who is about to attack you, which doesn't happen when you're a healer because you aren't typically targeting enemies. The only thing you can rely on is the thunder crack which is played after casting has begun and is itself slightly delayed.

And by the way, even with Stoneskin up and i80 synced WHM or SCH simply doesn't have enough HP to absorb that much damage in the first place. And no one would even bother wasting a melee LB on a tank.

[Koltik]

And by the way, even with Stoneskin up and i80 synced WHM or SCH simply doesn't have enough HP to absorb that much damage in the first place. And no one would even bother wasting a melee LB on a tank.

A properly geared and spec'd SCH or WHM has enough HP even without SS to survive it. I've seen it multiple times.

[Shake0615]

A properly geared and spec'd SCH or WHM has enough HP even without SS to survive it. I've seen it multiple times.

Attunement is the only thing that can make it survivable, not base HP. And even then, those who are able to pull of an Attunement on time are either lucky or already had it up when they were attacked by other players. Braver is on average 5k damage and synced healers won't get more than 4500 HP tops.

[Koltik]

Attunement is the only thing that can make it survivable, not base HP.

After reviewing my videos yes you are correct, but if a healer has any type of shield or the Warrior HP boost buff up then they can/will survive.

[Ayerro]

You can survive at full HP without Attunement if you 1) have the right food 2) are VIT spec'd and 3) have a tank in PT for the VIT buff.

Sounds very specific, but it's really not. Food, I'd assume people are willing to invest if they're serious. Aaand you can get a few VIT accessories. `-`
I have about 5.4k on my healer.

[Holyhunter]

Frankly, I think that's ridiculous.

The other team gets them too, its fine.