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    Koltik's Avatar
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    And yet here is another video actually where a SCH has 5500 HP unbuffed - meaning he can survive LB even without any shields on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR-e...tmOfkNnVtK1xqA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    And yet here is another video actually where a SCH has 5500 HP unbuffed - meaning he can survive LB even without any shields on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR-e...tmOfkNnVtK1xqA
    He will be using full i110 VIT accessories for that kind of HP, just so you're aware. Your average joe SCH won't have those lying around. Not that I'm saying people should be able to survive it, but using this person as a benchmark to dismiss the OP's point would be silly.

    I agree with the OP that they are over powered. I disagree that they should be changed. Limit breaks are an essential and interesting part of the strategy. That you can dismantle an entire party on a flag is a good tool to have at your disposal. Or Braver a cocky healer who thinks they're invincible. They are over powered, yes, but that's the point. They're supposed to be. If they were more common they wouldn't be as powerful.

    I've seen people really waste their LB, whereas others like to strategically use it. It's just a part of the battle to be incorporated into the strategy and enjoyed. And my opinion comes from the perspective of both a DRG and SCH. I love LBing people, and I hate being LB'd. It's all part of the fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    He will be using full i110 VIT accessories for that kind of HP, just so you're aware.
    i110? First of all, no he isn't. Second, even if he was it would be no different from i100, i90, or i80. Frontline scales all gear stats down to i80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    i110? First of all, no he isn't. Second, even if he was it would be no different from i100, i90, or i80. Frontline scales all gear stats down to i80.
    With full i90 VIT accessories I have 800 less HP than him. If the gear scales down in the way you believe this isn't possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    With full i90 VIT accessories I have 800 less HP than him. If the gear scales down in the way you believe this isn't possible.
    Every.single.time. you zone in to Frontline you will see a message in chat that says all items have been sync'd down to i80. Items are not the only thing that can give you more HP.
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    LB is fine, it has it's uses and its a very limited resource. sidenote, I have survived a braver LB before, its doable as long as you have enough HP.
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    K'atya Jhamei
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    Well, clearly I'm wrong on being able to survive one. As I said, I strongly dislike the mechanic and that will be enough to keep me away from healing. But it seems like at personal decision at this point. Just wanted to see if anyone felt similarly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
    But it seems like at personal decision at this point. Just wanted to see if anyone felt similarly.
    Doing a video during your match is a good idea. When you review it, you will notice what is happening to your surrounding, not just you. Healers are strong in the Frontline, it is your experience that counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Doing a video during your match is a good idea. When you review it, you will notice what is happening to your surrounding, not just you. Healers are strong in the Frontline, it is your experience that counts.
    I have plenty of experience with Wolves' Den, but those fights normally don't last long enough to build up a Limit Break anyway lol. I do video most of my matches and I consider myself good, not great in general. I suppose one of the main problems with this mechanic (again, in my personal experience) is that 4/5 times I'm solo healing in FL because no one wants to switch. So what is initially a tough enough problem becomes impossible because I'm the only one being targeted. Add in the fact that every 5 minutes or so a melee gets a one-shot skill (I don't understand how Koltik's SCH can prioritize that much vit and not sacrifice an insane amount of healing) and it makes for a very unenjoyable experience.
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    Last edited by Shake0615; 07-25-2014 at 06:19 AM.

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    Sohee Kim
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    Sometimes I like it. Other times I don't. It's not exactly fun having someone run through the crowd just to lb you on multiple occasions. It's even worse when you have two GC's fighting you and their casters both decide to lb your one party.
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