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  1. #41
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    If they fix the battle regimens and skill chains in this game it could be a major selling point and possibly enjoyable goals in combat, in my opinion. I felt like these things were more important than auto-attack and some of the other changes they are working on now. I was severely disappointed when reading Matsui's battle blueprint that Regimens were left out for now. Iit's something the game is sorely lacking in now that could help bring it around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    light and heavy attack can be mixed in any combo for def down, not just light+light and Heavy+Heavy. Also i try to always stack 3 incase one misses.
    the problem with that approach is that to get the most out of a BR you must have a new skill type in the 3rd position, for example WS => WS => Spell or Spell => Spell => WS. If you have WS => WS => WS => Spell, the spell is no longer 3rd and damage from it is not as good unless the first WS misses. But as far as the regular attacks you are correct, I didn't list all possible combos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    If they fix the battle regimens and skill chains in this game it could be a major selling point and possibly enjoyable goals in combat, in my opinion. I felt like these things were more important than auto-attack and some of the other changes they are working on now. I was severely disappointed when reading Matsui's battle blueprint that Regimens were left out for now. Iit's something the game is sorely lacking in now that could help bring it around.
    BRs are one of the things in game that work well. If they aren't working most of the time, you're doing it wrong. Try the combos I listed and tell me BRs are broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    The word "most" is what threw me off cause these are three little things and i wouldn't consider them "most" of the info about BR. The info on lodestone is enough to have any noob participating in BR. Also i challenge your 3rd point.
    Well those 3 little things (wich are four actually) are what makes the BR system amazing >.> That's what made me kill the roaming Buffalo in 7 minutes (pre nerf) so I guess they're quite important...
    And what do you mean with "I challenge your 3rd point"? Don't you believe it? Go try yourself, there's also a graphical hint: every person outside BR that perform a skill in that window has glowing hands, check their damage and you'll see the difference.

    BTW I don't get why do you have to bash on me, I just shared with people what I found out that SE didn't say, is it that bad? God, I'll just shut up the next time...
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    Last edited by Alcide; 07-14-2011 at 03:58 AM.

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    ...I like battle regimens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    the problem with that approach is that to get the most out of a BR you must have a new skill type in the 3rd position, for example WS => WS => Spell or Spell => Spell => WS. If you have WS => WS => WS => Spell, the spell is no longer 3rd and damage from it is not as good unless the first WS misses. But as far as the regular attacks you are correct, I didn't list all possible combos.
    no, i emant for def down. light+light+heavy or heavy+light+heavy, any combination. Only 2 of the three have to hit for def down.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    Well those 3 little things (wich are four actually) are what makes the BR system amazing >.> That's what made me kill the roaming Buffalo in 7 minutes (pre nerf) so I guess they're quite important...
    And what do you mean with "I challenge your 3rd point"? Don't you believe it? Go try yourself, there's also a graphical hint: every person outside BR that perform a skill in that window has glowing hands, check their damage and you'll see the difference.

    BTW I don't get why do you have to bash on me, I just shared with people what I found out that SE didn't say, is it that bad? God, I'll just shut up the next time...
    Im not bashing on you, you said the main thing wrong with BR is that it is not explained. I simply said if you go to loadstone the info is there. Zam has an even more in depth explanation of it. Apparently we think of the word "most" in a different way which led me to believing that you had discovered ever aspect of BR single handily. Im sorry if you felt i was picking on you. If this were in person it would be a light hearted conversation and i wouldn't take anything too serious. Im sorry for taking your text to literal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    no, i emant for def down. light+light+heavy or heavy+light+heavy, any combination. Only 2 of the three have to hit for def down.
    but again, it's more effective if you use light => light => magic attack or even light => heavy => magic attack

    The reason is that regular attacks are not very likely to miss and you get the added debuff of magic def down in addition to phys def down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    but again, it's more effective if you use light => light => magic attack or even light => heavy => magic attack

    The reason is that regular attacks are not very likely to miss and you get the added debuff of magic def down in addition to phys def down.
    but they do miss, Im not saying my way is the best or anything that's just what i do. If you hit all three you are not penalized for it and you can still go light+light+light+magic and get the added bonus. We were killing spitfire the other night over and over again and with only 2 of us doing the def down BR, we would get a miss here and there and have to do it again. Oh well, was just a tip, not trying to force my ideas on you.
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    with my ls we do br and do about 10k dmg in 1 br seriously isnt to hard . Now with that said only down fall to the BR is you can not do any action till its activated so if you dont know what your doing the party can die especially if you doing death BR .
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