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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    The main reason for the nerfs in things such as Coil is to make sure no-one is left out of plot oriented content. It's not simply to make things easier, just so others can experience it.
    Really? Then why were the EX Primals nerfed along with Coil then? Coil may be related to the story, but there is no plot to the EX Primals whatsoever. And even in Coil, you no longer need to do the turns in order, so you could skip straight to Turn 5 and miss out on all the story related cutscenes anyway. The nerfs happen for the reason I said, to let everyone experience it.

    EDIT: Reached daily limit so just adding this on here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    It's to give players another option of gear progression through, To Tussle with Gods. Thereby, still falling in line with my stated point above. Gear progession leads to experiencing further plot oriented content, primal mounts do not.

    EDIT: Also, doing Turns in or out of order comes down to individual choice. You also have some players that choose to skip past each an every piece of dialog, so I don't see how that matters.
    I just think you making claims that it is anything to do with plot is flat out wrong. What was the hardest thing we had to do for the plot in last batch of story quests, Leviathan HM? You're telling me that couldn't be done without an i95 Turn 5 weapon? That they had to nerf both Coil and EX Primals so people had their gear for mighty Leviathan HM. No, the nerfs are nothing to do with the plot, but if you still cannot see that I won't try and convince you anymore.

    The ironic thing is people keep calling us "whingers" because we want the mounts to feel "special" when in fact it's not like that at all, it's actually the other way around. The majority, albeit not all, of the people arguing against this already have their special mount and are basically throwing a tantrum because they don't want other people to get it too. No one here is suggesting that the mounts just be handed out, that every Primal kill should yield a mount, we are offering to work for it. How would earning it by doing fifty, hundred, maybe more kills, be any less deserving than say...

    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    I also have, Enbarr, got it on my 2nd-3rd kill of lev ex.
    Then we get comments like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    people are so butt hurt and want to play an MMO without the MMO grind.

    No, actually it's the opposite. People could theoretically (no matter how unlikely) get all five, now six, mounts in their very first attempt. Is that a grind to you? No, it's being rewarded just because the game decides so, no grind whatsoever. No one is asking for the mounts to be given up for nothing, it would just be nice to have an alternative to RNG. Whether you believe in good and bad luck or not, the fact is some people do just have flat out bad luck. We keep talking about the low drop rate but in theory someone could see the mount twenty, thirty times in a row, and still lose every time. That's just the cruel nature of RNG.

    People keep talking about how rewards should be rare, but this is just a game. I'm not asking for a Purple Heart or an Academy Award here, I'm asking for an alternative method to obtain something which would make me enjoy the game more. As for those who are so vehemently against it, I can't think of many honest reasons why other than spite.

    And my final edit then I'll head off.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    If you don't like or agree with my point, that's fine; however, that doesn't make it any less correct.
    I'm afraid you're not correct though and are kind of rambling now. At no point did complain about the weapons, that has nothing to do with this topic, or my comments related to RNG on the mounts. In fact I said the opposite, I said I'd take a mount instead of a Mirror. You were the one saying Coil and EX Primals were nerfed for progression through the story, which is just categorically wrong. EX Primals are not even linked the story, while Coil and EX Primals drop i90 gear, which is worse than the i100 gear your Soldiery tomes get you. And I'm guessing the vast majority of people would have been full i90 in at least one, if not more, jobs anyway after accruing around six months of Myth gear.

    So, if you don't like or agree with my point, that's fine; however, that doesn't make it any less correct.
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    Last edited by TeganLaron; 07-05-2014 at 11:36 AM.