Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Butcherboy]

At above for a boss opening, yes I use all of it for burst rotation, but no I dint wait to use for b4b to b up to use other moves such as ls and FT.

[Decrith]

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Was this with a party or just solo? From what I remember, you get bonus which increase your damage if you're in a party.

[renka_chan]

Thanks for explanations, Ricdeau. It cleared some points for me. So, my understanding was I should look for gear which give more + str regardless it's det or crit, right? By using the formula 1 det / crit is equal to xxx strength.

My other question was how weapon damage affect our damage output? People said that I should used weathered liberator rather than atma to clear t8. It had a differences of 3 damage though.


Thanks again for your effort to explain it .

[Tilgung]

1 base damage is equal to ~9 STR.

[Synestr]

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I just wanted to be a part of page 300 of this epic thread!!

Syn

[Butcherboy]

Wow 300 club

[Sygmaelle]

I mean, you're basically delaying spineshatter and dfd for like 30 seconds in the beginning and then spineshatter comes up about like 20 seconds before he jumps. I'm not even sure if you're getting an extra usage of either skill while I don't think I can run back in time immediately after it lands on my tank.

I checked my times and I won't get extra usage of either skills before phase changes.

Oh I do get an extra usage of SSD when shes doin the second jump before the 2nd Thermionic, thats usually when we push the phase (skippin beak and next meteor)

[whiskeybravo]

Hmmm does it REALLY, REALLY matter if I use LS+FT and/or PS+Jump without B4B, and should I just hold them until B4B is up? Because I do the exact rotation in this guide but I open with B4B instead of IR since logically you want the longer buff to get up first.
With my rotation / current 367 SSpd (2.47 GCD), when my PS and LS are all up B4B is still on cd for +/- an full TT>VT>FT rotation (Which is like, 7.5 seconds). So with an "always use LS / PS with B4B up" mindset I always wait until B4B is up. But I guess some advice from more experienced DRGs can help me clarify this. Thanks!

It's just something to keep in mind, it's really just about getting familiar with each fight and adjusting the rotation accordingly. Little things like in T5 conflag phase, you can hit HT when she turns on someone for fireball, then IDC-Pleb Twin, Impulse Twin/Dis Conflag. It's not the "proper rotation", it's adjusting the rotation to fit the mechanics. I don't think Skill Speed is your problem, I can get up to 490 sksp and it doesn't affect the rotation that much. You definitely don't want to be standing there, doing nothing, while you wait for buffs. If you find an off-GCD like within a few seconds of being able to be used, see if there is a Phleb or IDC chain that needs to be refreshed, or if you can fill with a TTT then do so.

Side note: Woot 300 stronk!

[Itseotle]

It's just something to keep in mind, it's really just about getting familiar with each fight and adjusting the rotation accordingly. You definitely don't want to be standing there, doing nothing, while you wait for buffs.

Exactly. Another prime example is in T8, just before the Dreads spawn (at least for me) there is time for a single ability on the Avatar before you start your IDC combo. I was filling with Fracture, but decided for TP's sake to just go double Impulse Drive so Disembowel is ready to stick on the Dread just as it runs through me.

[Ayvar]

Just wanted to give a page 300 shoutout to all the Dragoons that post in the thread helping everyone out with their questions. It warms my heart to see a Dragoon community that is so understanding and supportive of new players.

Thanks guys! You're all shiny and amazing and stuff.