DPS meters and why they're necessary

[Malric]

Anyway as I said before, not sure why I'm even talking about this.
It's a meaningless subject as the rules are what they are and I don't see SE changing that ever.
Lots of games don't allow addons, FFXI didn't allow them and it didn't kill anything.

This has become a 18 page & growing thread of people bantering something that none of us have any say over.
People don't change, they just argue.
This thread alone has officially wasted more of my time than DPS meters are even worth.

So please feel free to flame on with whatever meaningless garbage you can come up with knowing I'm done replying and going back to the game.

Just know, it truly is meaningless... the devs know how you feel about DPS meters.
They also know how everyone else feels about them.
And they know what they are and how they work.
They don't care.

SE isn't going to allow them here just like they didn't in FFXI.

Build a bridge and get over it.

[Hiruke]

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SE isn't going to allow them here just like they didn't in FFXI.

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Cool story. So, whenever people don't like something, they should just shut up and accept it? If people did that, we'd all have accepted that FFXIV is complete garbage thanks to 1.0, the game would have died, and no one would have cared. Good argument.

People complaining are how customers inform the business that something isn't right. The business then decides if it makes sense to listen. The business runs the risk of 1) doing something they heard people say they want but is actually a really bad idea that will lose them business and 2) not doing something they heard people say they want and is actually a really good idea but since they refuse to do it people are frustrated and take their business elsewhere. Saying it's stupid to complain is... stupid.

Comparing FFXIV to FFXI is pointless. No one from the FFXI team is on the FFXIV team. SE isn't a big faceless monster. FFXIV is run by humans. Different humans from the ones who run FFXI. Also, FFXI is not exactly a game rife with tight dps checks. You can TOTALLY carry swarms of awful players through EVERY content in the ENTIRE GAME.

That is nowhere close to the reality of FFXIV. Carrying people is undesirable in the extreme. Sometimes it's difficult/impossible. Bad dps is bad, and people need to be aware.

Build a bridge back to reality and stop accepting that everything awful must remain awful forever "just because".

[Pooky_Pasha]

How can you tell wich is better between determination, spell speed or critical? I guess a dps meater was not involver by you or others or your "i'm amazing without a dps meater" is only shit. How can you tell if it's better double flare in t8 even without convert and you get stuck to wait in UI1 or not?

I'm guessing his claims/delusions of grandeur are similar to how an amazing percent of people become "developers" or "game designers" when it suits their argument.