DPS meters and why they're necessary

[SeraviEdalborez]

Historically, it's never been this way... ever.
People don't stop to teach pugs how to improve, they just kick people.
In games where they are allowed... this has never changed.
Wow has had DPS meters for years... guess what... it never changed there and it won't change here.

This theory would only work if most people used them which would never happen.

In that case the "legality" of the meter doesn't even matter to them then, does it?

DPS in this game is almost entirely straightforward. Good gear (to an extent) doesn't matter as much as good play. Someone who parses highly is doing something "more right" than someone who parses lower. It's up to them to figure out how.

Not everyone wants to be a teacher/learner.

[Malric]

In that case the "legality" of the meter doesn't even matter to them then, does it?

What "Legality"?
This is a game, not a country.
There are no laws inside FFXIV other than what Square puts there.

They make the laws, they make the rules, it is their game and their choice.

The only say we as players have is whether or not we decide to play the game.

You can sing about your feelings on DPS meters until the end of the earth, they're not going to unban you if they catch you.

You could all leave and obviously they wouldn't care. If they cared that you keep paying, they wouldn't ban you for it.

Sure they'd rather you keep paying and playing, but they've made it clear that this is not a negotiation.

For all I care you guys can stay in fight club, never talk about fight club, and live in fight club.

Just remember in the end, fight club was just some crazy fool beating himself up over nothing.

[Malric]

Not everyone wants to be a teacher/learner.

I agree... however this is the method 95% of people use to justify why DPS meters help the game.

I'm pretty sure you aren't winning any votes with the masses advertising their most common purpose.
Determining who to kick out of the party for not being good enough...

If SE was okay with this there would be an option to vote kick people in DF because they're not good enough to finish the content.

I've grouped with people that simply sucked and were ruining my daily MANY times... the ones that are borderline worse than bots.

Believe me I looked, "They Suck" is NOT an option when vote kicking someone. I kinda think that's intentional.

Use your meters in fight club premades and statics all you want and no one but you and SE will care.

There's a lot like me though that will report you before you can blink you pull that crap in Duty Finder so remember the first rule of Fight Club.

[Hiruke]

Believe me I looked, "They Suck" is NOT an option when vote kicking someone. I kinda think that's intentional.

I class being terrible at dps as "harassment". In order to prove it's harassment, if things are taking a million years to die, I (politely) let the other person know that they need to use a better rotation/look up a proper rotation. This goes one of two ways: 1) They do so, and their dps improves or 2) They start trolling the hell out of me, and I kick them. I've yet to see 3) They say nothing and just continue to dps poorly. It's a theoretical possibility, I guess.