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  1. #751
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    Which is why I used it as an example. Thief has an iconic image, that many players wanted, and were looking forward to when the possibility presented itself, myself included. Making rogue the only version of Thief in this game is a big F-U to people who've come to expect Thieves iconic imagery to be represented and playable at endgame.
    You mean like the green armor set(likely glamourable) the Rogue was wearing in the intro media?

    The Thief's iconic imagery since FF3 is a knife (sometimes singular sometimes dual wielded) using class that wears light clothes (usually green) wearing a bandana (usually green, but occasionally other colors).

    The developers choice of the Rogue's gear in its intro was pretty much the developers way of saying "...and Here's THIEF!!!" to long time fans of the series.
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  2. #752
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    It doesn't really matter though, Ninja was excluded from some games and it was there from the start. So was Thief. So it sets the idea, "Thief or Ninja won't be in all games".

    It's more likely Ninja is more popular than Thief anyway (cuz Japan).
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  3. #753
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    Just because you do not have a creative idea as to how a Thief Job can work in this game doesn't mean that professional game developers can not. Also Thief was never just a job that can steal. Other MMO's made Thief-like jobs pretty uber and became popular. Like Rogue from WoW.
    See newest addition to the game coming in 2.4

    Aka the FFXIV version of the WoW rogue


    Also I got to say I like you LoLo. You fail to come up with any real argument so you just spam over and over about how Class and Job are VERY different things and omg how could ninja be anything like rogue even through 17 of its 22 abilities will be rogue abilities.
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 06-28-2014 at 09:26 AM.

  4. #754
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    Roll's Avatar
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    Has everyone forgotten or is ignoring the fact that:
    in FF1 Thief changes into Ninja?

    To me it seems perfectly fine that Rogue (Thief Basically) is the class that later unlocks Ninja.
    And even if SE ever decided to implement Thief as a job, what would set it apart from Ninja as a dps role? And a class branching off into 2 dps roles? That wouldn't make much sense and would seem pointless.

    If I wanted to be a Thief so bad, I would just glamour my Ninja with green gear and a bandanna like in the Rouge/Ninja trailer.

    The point is, Thief turning into a Ninja isn't new and has been around since the first FF game.
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  5. #755
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    Man I remember back in my day when jobs were there own thing and not tied by a silly class letting each one be unique.

    Another example of how the class system design is just holding the game back.
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  6. #756
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    So is this thread basically a long QQ about wanting thief now?
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  7. #757
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    So is this thread basically a long QQ about wanting thief now?
    Ever since page 2, man.
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  8. #758
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    L-D-Omlette's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    You mean like the green armor set(likely glamourable) the Rogue was wearing in the intro media?

    The Thief's iconic imagery since FF3 is a knife (sometimes singular sometimes dual wielded) using class that wears light clothes (usually green) wearing a bandana (usually green, but occasionally other colors).

    The developers choice of the Rogue's gear in its intro was pretty much the developers way of saying "...and Here's THIEF!!!" to long time fans of the series.
    So if I don't want to use ninjitsu crap I can still join your raid group right? No? So I can play Ninja dressed up like Thief, but not as a Thief. Got it... /s
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    Last edited by L-D-Omlette; 06-28-2014 at 12:43 PM.

  9. #759
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    So if I don't want to use ninjitsu crap I can still join your raid group right?

    Yea if I can join yours and not use my summoner dots.

    SUMMONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND SUMMON THINGS!!! THESE DOTS RUIN THE GAME FOR ME /rage
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Yea if I can join yours and not use my summoner dots.

    SUMMONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND SUMMON THINGS!!! THESE DOTS RUIN THE GAME FOR ME /rage
    The only dot SMN gets is Enkindle, so that's kinda a poor analogy. >_>
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