NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[L-D-Omlette]

As for your example on Samurai, I think the issue with that would be FF has built up the reasoning that Samurai should be using katanas. Randomly giving it a spear because it was like that historically is a big F-U to people who've come to expect Samurai's iconic weapon to be the weapon of choice.

Which is why I used it as an example. Thief has an iconic image, that many players wanted, and were looking forward to when the possibility presented itself, myself included. Making rogue the only version of Thief in this game is a big F-U to people who've come to expect Thieves iconic imagery to be represented and playable at endgame.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Which is why I used it as an example. Thief has an iconic image, that many players wanted, and were looking forward to when the possibility presented itself, myself included. Making rogue the only version of Thief in this game is a big F-U to people who've come to expect Thieves iconic imagery to be represented and playable at endgame.

You mean like the green armor set(likely glamourable) the Rogue was wearing in the intro media?

The Thief's iconic imagery since FF3 is a knife (sometimes singular sometimes dual wielded) using class that wears light clothes (usually green) wearing a bandana (usually green, but occasionally other colors).

The developers choice of the Rogue's gear in its intro was pretty much the developers way of saying "...and Here's THIEF!!!" to long time fans of the series.

[L-D-Omlette]

You mean like the green armor set(likely glamourable) the Rogue was wearing in the intro media?

The Thief's iconic imagery since FF3 is a knife (sometimes singular sometimes dual wielded) using class that wears light clothes (usually green) wearing a bandana (usually green, but occasionally other colors).

The developers choice of the Rogue's gear in its intro was pretty much the developers way of saying "...and Here's THIEF!!!" to long time fans of the series.

So if I don't want to use ninjitsu crap I can still join your raid group right? No? So I can play Ninja dressed up like Thief, but not as a Thief. Got it... /s

[Zarzak]

So if I don't want to use ninjitsu crap I can still join your raid group right?

Yea if I can join yours and not use my summoner dots.

SUMMONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND SUMMON THINGS!!! THESE DOTS RUIN THE GAME FOR ME /rage

[Viridiana]

Yea if I can join yours and not use my summoner dots.

SUMMONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND SUMMON THINGS!!! THESE DOTS RUIN THE GAME FOR ME /rage

The only dot SMN gets is Enkindle, so that's kinda a poor analogy. >_>

[Zarzak]

The only dot SMN gets is Enkindle, so that's kinda a poor analogy. >_>

so you mean I'm not even playing a summoner? I'm playing some dirty Arcanist? RAGE FK THAT I WANT MY NECROMANCER!

[Mcshiggs]

The only dot SMN gets is Enkindle, so that's kinda a poor analogy. >_>

I am curious as to what you think a dot actually is.

[Viridiana]

I am curious as to what you think a dot actually is.

It's a Damage Over Time ability. Of the abilities unique to SMN (not ACN abilities) the only one with a dot component is Enkindle. Summon III, Fester, Spur, and Tri-disaster certainly aren't dots. I mean, I guess Garuda's Enkindle move doesn't have a dot, but Ifrit's does and Titan's kinda does.