Problems with SMN Resurrection Spell Usage

[Sen_Terrechant]

Is the fight a DPS race?

If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

If No, who cares just someone rez.

[Alistaire]

Is the fight a DPS race?

If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

If No, who cares just someone rez.

Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?

[Altimis]

Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?

its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)

[Alistaire]

its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)

You can't calculate it like that lol...think practically. Is there any point in a fight you'll be able to cast something as far as gcd goes but can't because of mp issues? After 1 raise? Hell, after 3 raises? If you can't manage your MP on SMN *that badly* please for the love of god never play sch or whm.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

Man, your server sucks then, i mean, smn res is for emergencies, lol, what kind of people makes a smn to do res duty when u habe sch-whm? Lol, also, why theybdie so often? Lol and lol

[Marianno]

Man, your server sucks then, i mean, smn res is for emergencies, lol, what kind of people makes a smn to do res duty when u habe sch-whm? Lol, also, why theybdie so often? Lol and lol

Lol because people like standing in colorful circles of death trying to finish of their combo rotations or finish casting their spells. A good example is in thornmarch extreme or titan extreme/hard-mode. People are dieing due to landslide and plumes because of this. Then in thornmarch extreme people are dieing due to not being able to dodge the mini meteors because they want to finish what they were doing then move and think that they won't get hit. Granted that I understand that there can be lag issues but to continuously die, and then consistently expect me to raise you, that disturbs me. People seem to think that they have a faster cast time than the boss when they don't in most cases and wonder why they get punished with death.

[Seaku]

You can't calculate it like that lol...think practically. Is there any point in a fight you'll be able to cast something as far as gcd goes but can't because of mp issues? After 1 raise? Hell, after 3 raises? If you can't manage your MP on SMN *that badly* please for the love of god never play sch or whm.

On most fights res is fine, you'll have the mp to cope. Some of the more mana intesive fights you'll run out of mp if you have to do it too often, remember Aetherflow only gives you back ~700mp which is less than the cast of a res. So you'll be a full minute behind your mp stores every time you have to res. If you do have to res however cut down on using miasma II or shadowflare so not to deplete you reserves too quickly. Ignore this all if your bard is at a point that he can Ballad since you'll restore that mana quite quickly.

As for 3 raises? Yea you can run out of mana easy, you can generally use more than 700mp in your normal rotations between Aetherflows even with mp recharging at normal rates. Assuming that then you are losing more mana then you gain. So you'll already be down a bit of mp as the fight goes on. With 3 raises you're out another 2400mp which is almost your entire pool. Fights like T8 with no jump phases where you can constantly dps that mana will vanish without a ballad and 3 raises.

Even if we say that you use mana only equal to your aetherflow over a minute, you will STILL be out of mp with 3 raises as you'll be back 2400mp. Honestly don't think that our raises are free.

[Hiruke]

Should they avoid avoidable damage? Yes. Should you be the first to swift-res anyone that doesn't, for whatever reason? Also yes.

SMN might as well be considered a non-MP using job considering how easy it is for them to keep up enough MP to do their dps'ing.

This is wrong. No offense, but you don't know what you're saying. If SMN has to Resurrection more than once in a relatively short period of time, their MP is trashed. You have to start using Energy Drain to even try to keep up, which is throwing your dps in the gutter since you ought to be using Fester.

Helping to Raise is undoubtedly a good thing SMN should be doing, but if people are constantly on the floor, it's a total waste of time. It will tank the SMN's MP, tank their dps, and the person you got up will just die again, contributing nothing.

[MrCookTM]

Correct me if I'm wrong because i didn't play a healing job at high level yet, but from my understanding Swiftcast is used by a Healer in emergency situations like death of a party member etc., whereas my Swiftcast will 'almost never' be available for a rez, since Swiftcast -> Shadow Flare is a set part of my rotations and will always be on cooldown.

[Thaliss]

In most my groups for rez SMN => SCH => WHM, but this changes depending who has swiftcast available? Is there intensive healing to be done or not?

If I have 2+ dps dead and one is a SMN he gets the rez 1st wonder why....

That said it depends on situation, it is teamwork.

Note : swiftcast can be used by healers with stoneskin or medica 2... for some contents, and saved for those spike damage. Again it is the situation.

Reminds me the WHM I met said to me I don't Esuna it costs me MP