Problems with SMN Resurrection Spell Usage

[ErnestoGiovanni]

Smn should use Rez when they can, as sch i am always first to rez because i am always first to notice and i can force my fairy to spot heal. As whm, i almost never have swift up, because chances are if some big attack is taking people out, i burnt my SC keeping everyone edpecially tanks alive and its most likely the fault of whoever died for eating multiple attacks instead of the big unavoidable. Just from this things my whm just burnt through the MP equal to a raise to prevent a wipe. Those are if, in general a group is good, if they suck i raise when i can as heals, and expect the smn to chip in too because if the group is in a hole, unless there is 1% left,dps wont save you from a wipe.

[Urielparadox]

I have casted raise over 14 times in a titan hard mode fight. Was this too much? yes. To say we don't have enough mp to do it, is a lie. If you are ever worried about you mp as a summoner it's because you are casting ruin 2 too much or switch egis. AS fr as it goes though a sch's mp is more needed then a summoners mp, and to say you need to cast ruin 2 more and thats why you can't raise is a very very very poor excuse. it's almost always better for a summoner to raise since 95% of it's damage come from dots.

[Eltaire]

I recently did a Crystal Tower run as a Summoner, and both the Healers went down. If I didn't res them, then the party would have wiped as it was on the Behemoth King battle, so the electric floor would have gotten us all.

I don't see a problem with Summoners using Res, especially when they can use Swiftcast. ;D

[IceSpear]

Well first off you shouldn't even need to be casting resurrection unless one or both healers go down. Healers should be able to keep everyone up otherwise they're not doing there job properly. And in this instance that you mentioned if they can't dodge a simple mechanic then it's their fault and if the healers (assuming one scholar and one white mage) can't keep the party up then they're bad healers.

[Marianno]

Well first off you shouldn't even need to be casting resurrection unless one or both healers go down. Healers should be able to keep everyone up otherwise they're not doing there job properly. And in this instance that you mentioned if they can't dodge a simple mechanic then it's their fault and if the healers (assuming one scholar and one white mage) can't keep the party up then they're bad healers.

This so much. While I don't see the problem with res people as a SMN, I do see the problem with being put on res duty and having consistently res people who refuse to dodge colorful circles of death because they feel that finishing their combo or rotation is more important. Simply put, move your a** out the colorful circle of death. Again, granted that I am very understanding of lag/ping issues that cause severe delays, but if I have to consistently res you then I will leave there to rot and I will not res you. I will not pick up slack for people who don't try. I don't mind res people because it is a skill given to my unique DPS job. However, don't think that my res are free and that MP is certainly not and issue. Though I usually never cast ruin 2 unless I'm forced to move around, my res is only in the case of both healers going down or tank(s) or when a DPS dies and the healers can't get to the DPS to res them. I'm not going to just stand idly by in any raid instance and sit on res duty (wait until someone dies and then res them) because that is not the primary motive of playing DPS. My job is to kill and I will take pleasure in killing the enemy as my job dictates.

[SeraviEdalborez]

I think you're missing my argument. I'm not saying SMN can't or shouldn't raise. I'm saying there's no reason for you to be first to raise unless both healers are dead (in which case you're the only raise), their Swiftcast isn't up, and/or their MP is bad. If none of those are happening, why shouldn't a healer just do it?

Ruin 2 isn't bad by the way, if you are in melee range. Autoattack damage is not insignificant and the increased MP cost is not often a problem except for some long fights.

[tOnni3]

I think it is depend on play style and mindset.

Somebody will do all it takes to accomplish the mission.
Somebody wants to go all out and down boss as fast as possible, or to be the top in parser.

But for me, I do raise duty to help healers' MP. And hard cast raise if it is necessary and safe to do.
Normally I alway weave in Ruin II, but I stop it if I find MP is getting low
(by that time when MP almost run out, so are healers' MP, and now Ballad is up to save my day).

Moreover, I throw E4E, Virus on the critical moment as well.
I like to support party this way, that's why I play SMN.