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    Is the fight a DPS race?

    If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

    If No, who cares just someone rez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    Is the fight a DPS race?

    If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

    If No, who cares just someone rez.
    Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?
    its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

    Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

    If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

    Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

    If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)
    You can't calculate it like that lol...think practically. Is there any point in a fight you'll be able to cast something as far as gcd goes but can't because of mp issues? After 1 raise? Hell, after 3 raises? If you can't manage your MP on SMN *that badly* please for the love of god never play sch or whm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    You can't calculate it like that lol...think practically. Is there any point in a fight you'll be able to cast something as far as gcd goes but can't because of mp issues? After 1 raise? Hell, after 3 raises? If you can't manage your MP on SMN *that badly* please for the love of god never play sch or whm.
    On most fights res is fine, you'll have the mp to cope. Some of the more mana intesive fights you'll run out of mp if you have to do it too often, remember Aetherflow only gives you back ~700mp which is less than the cast of a res. So you'll be a full minute behind your mp stores every time you have to res. If you do have to res however cut down on using miasma II or shadowflare so not to deplete you reserves too quickly. Ignore this all if your bard is at a point that he can Ballad since you'll restore that mana quite quickly.

    As for 3 raises? Yea you can run out of mana easy, you can generally use more than 700mp in your normal rotations between Aetherflows even with mp recharging at normal rates. Assuming that then you are losing more mana then you gain. So you'll already be down a bit of mp as the fight goes on. With 3 raises you're out another 2400mp which is almost your entire pool. Fights like T8 with no jump phases where you can constantly dps that mana will vanish without a ballad and 3 raises.

    Even if we say that you use mana only equal to your aetherflow over a minute, you will STILL be out of mp with 3 raises as you'll be back 2400mp. Honestly don't think that our raises are free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?
    You certainly are in T8. I run out of MP before my healers and im using Aetherflow on CD every single time.

    Its nearly the same in most DPS races, T8 just happens to be the longest race.
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