DPS meters and why they're necessary

[Exstal]

They will be used for worse more than they are for better, END OF DISCUSSION!

False. Please don't spread lies.

[Butcherboy]

False. Please don't spread lies.

It's a 50/50 in this. There are good and bad, so thus SE will not implement it. I want a parser may b a personal one, where I can track my progress. If someone ask me for my numbers I'll take a picture and text it to them lol

[Dwill]

They will be used for worse more than they are for better, END OF DISCUSSION!

No, not end of discussion. The only thing you proved was a claim without evidences therefore adding nothing to discussion except more "parsers r the devilz".

[Dwill]

Right now we're at a point where parsers have a really bad rep among casuals, even if many games use it, casuals usually are not familiar with them, we are talking about FFXIV specifically, context really takes a big role when making this kind of decisions (Community wise), I would not have said anything about them if they had been introduced from the beginning but right now I do not think it would be a smart move by SE, adding in-game parser where you're ranked.

That's the thing. That argument makes no sense, it uses the same base as technophobia which is flat out stupid.

[LetBloodline]

I am a BLM from ps4 and i'm really striving for a personal DPS meater. It piss me off that i'm unable to try out the difference in rotations, the impact of equipment swapping, different timing for cooldowns in fight and similar. And i can't do it cuz i'd need to ask my friend with parser up after every wipe/run how i performed and it's nothing i dare to do

I really hate not being able to pars myself and be forced to play it random. Is better to use quelling strike on that phase or on the other one? I try Thunder 1 with one more fire cast or thunder 2 with one fire less? I can't answer miself. And this is really pissing me off being unable to parse myself only cuz i'm on console

Make personal parsers that don't give information on other members and that you can't show to others. No problems with others and ppl can try to better themselfs even on consoles =_=

[givemeraptors]

I am a BLM from ps4 and i'm really striving for a personal DPS meater. It piss me off that i'm unable to try out the difference in rotations, the impact of equipment swapping, different timing for cooldowns in fight and similar. And i can't do it cuz i'd need to ask my friend with parser up after every wipe/run how i performed and it's nothing i dare to do

I really hate not being able to pars myself and be forced to play it random. Is better to use quelling strike on that phase or on the other one? I try Thunder 1 with one more fire cast or thunder 2 with one fire less? I can't answer miself. And this is really pissing me off being unable to parse myself only cuz i'm on console

Make personal parsers that don't give information on other members and that you can't show to others. No problems with others and ppl can try to better themselfs even on consoles =_=

I thought a personal parser would work but the thing is that everyone else will know that you can see your numbers and no doubt there would be groups that ask you to share that information. I suppose you could bluff and say something like 300dps when you really did 200, but why should people have to lie or hide things from others to avoid being harassed?

[LetBloodline]

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Why i can't enjoy this game fully? Why i can't get the fun of experiencing different rotation? Why i must only rely on information others experience? Why can't i min max? Just cuz i'm on PS4, in the face od "same experience". For not casual this is a huge letdown on the potential fun of testing a item with 25 SS opposed to a 20 crit one, or slight differences due to cooldown timing.

Plus asking someone how much you parse when you can't check is honestly idiotic, way less abusable/harrassing of other things like vote-kick abuse. Idiots are idiots with or without this and report is there for this. The pros in personal DPS is why higher the the cons of ppl that alredy harass with parser. I want a much more heavy cons to personal parser not displeyable

[Skyl1n3]

False. Please don't spread lies.

So you're telling me there wont suddenly be PF's with "LF DPS, MUST HAVE 350+DPS, PROOF IS REQUIRED"?

You're telling me their wont be Pugs in which those who are pro-parsers gang up on 1 or 2 other players because their DPS isn't as good as theirs? Or poking fun at the fact that "lol I'm at 324 DPS, this MNK's only doing 295, get good!"

No, not end of discussion. The only thing you proved was a claim without evidences therefore adding nothing to discussion except more "parsers r the devilz".

I never said "parsers r the devilz" (and to be frank anyone who uses that grammar needs to be euthanised), I simply said Parsers will be abused more than they will be used for good, I don't mind a personal parser only seen by each player but then it'll still incite others to say "what's your DPS?" If you try to join say a SCoB Pug group who're formed mainly of an FC.

[RinchanNau]

So it's better that we go in a PF and have to deal with i100 DPS players doing 100-140 DPS in a relatively easy fight like Levi ex? Maybe wipe a few times and the party is disbanded?

I'm not really sure that harassment would be a greater problem with a built in parser. Maybe. Maybe not. It could also inspire a lot of players to work on their rotations and optimizing their DPS for various fights. I think it'd be more positive than negative.

[LetBloodline]

So you're telling me there wont suddenly be PF's with "LF DPS, MUST HAVE 350+DPS, PROOF IS REQUIRED"?

If game will not allow you to share information but the "workaraound" can only be screenshots (on pc since on PS3 you can't do even that) asking fro screenshot of that parser is like parsing with 3th party apps, so passible of report. Plus DPS is not a static number like crit rate. Every time you enter a dungeon you get different result so what exactly are we talking about?