Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[Xine]

I'd just ignore them at this point. Constantly arguing and attempting to build hope where it will possibly destroy what some people may be hoping for is a good way to have people form a negative opinion about you. Personally, I'd like to see Shea's weapon come closer to finishing so I can figure out if I want to put Det as my secondary attribute or stick with Acc and build up my Crit to 44 first for 31 Acc. Having 31 Det sure as hell would be great and all, but I do NOT have that much faith in SE's programming to fully allow for 44Crit and 31Det when its obvious on every single piece of equipment in the game that Det has a lower cap than the other secondary attributes. Sure, its proven that 31 Det is the cap for Det on i110 weapons, and it very well could wind up being 44/31 Crit/Det, but again, I do not have that much faith in SE's programming and how their "hidden numbers" work for it to wind being this way. I'd rather wind up seeing this 44/22 Crit/Det idea turn out to be false than go with the idea of 44/31 Crit/Det and wind up being disappointed because someone wanted to be so adamant about it being true that it turns out to just be giving people false hope.

[Donjo]

But you claimed that if it didn't it would be stupid and unbalanced, which kinda showed how much you discredit anything that differs from your opinion. The irony here is that there are more reasons to think it is going to be a 44/31 than a 44/22...because we have a scroll that shows it...and you have, nothing. Also, I'm going to tell you the same I told Donjo. Take the Astral Ring HQ as an example. It's piety caps at 6, its Critical caps at 12 and it's vitality caps at 9. Can you cap all those stats? Yes you can. Does any of those stats decrease its cap because you cap the other ones? No, it doesn't. Problem? It would probably take millions of gils if you wanted to do so because overmelding + RNG = a nightmare. Also, the Novus has NO precedence. First time you can customize the stats of your relic.

Hey, just because it's unbalanced doesn't mean SE won't do it. I don't think that was ever said. I'm going to be confused and somewhat irritated if some people get a better Novus than others just because they chose the "correct" stats, sure, but I'm not flat out denying that you can break the caps with the Novus. I'm just saying that you might not actually be able to. Customizable Stats or no, no Blue or Purple item has ever broken its secondary stat cap. The fact that Green Crafted items can is the actual incentive to acquire them while on the path to the better top iLvl items of the patch.

[Nekodar]

Customizable Stats or no, no Blue or Purple item has ever broken its secondary stat cap. The fact that Green Crafted items can is the actual incentive to acquire them while on the path to the better top iLvl items of the patch.

Please point to the Blue and Purple items other than Novus that have customizable stats.

[LunarEmerald]

I'd just ignore them at this point. Constantly arguing and attempting to build hope where it will possibly destroy what some people may be hoping for is a good way to have people form a negative opinion about you. Personally, I'd like to see Shea's weapon come closer to finishing so I can figure out if I want to put Det as my secondary attribute or stick with Acc and build up my Crit to 44 first for 31 Acc. Having 31 Det sure as hell would be great and all, but I do NOT have that much faith in SE's programming to fully allow for 44Crit and 31Det when its obvious on every single piece of equipment in the game that Det has a lower cap than the other secondary attributes. Sure, its proven that 31 Det is the cap for Det on i110 weapons, and it very well could wind up being 44/31 Crit/Det, but again, I do not have that much faith in SE's programming and how their "hidden numbers" work for it to wind being this way. I'd rather wind up seeing this 44/22 Crit/Det idea turn out to be false than go with the idea of 44/31 Crit/Det and wind up being disappointed because someone wanted to be so adamant about it being true that it turns out to just be giving people false hope.

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

[Donjo]

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

That's fine, and a good measure of progress. However, nobody has tried this while their scroll has less than 75 infusions but more than 75 points of stat weight infused. We'll have to wait until more infusions get performed on a relevant scroll to prove this, unfortunately.

EDIT: Are any Paladins actively working on a Holy Shield that will contain Determination? That will be the quickest way to find out!

Unweighted is 13 of a Stat and 9 Determination.

Weighted is 13 of a Stat and 6 Determination
or 9 of a Stat and 9 Determination

[Xine]

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

Tell me that when its been confirmed with a completed Novus weapon and I'll believe it, until then its nothing but text that's already been proven to not give you ALL of the information that's required "by players" to be able to completely understand how a quest works. Call the previous lack of descriptions bugs or typos it doesn't matter. But until this is proven one way or another, I don't encourage anyone to believe the text letter by letter.

And just as well, I dont think this has been mentioned by anyone yet, but the game can not predict how you will meld your scroll. Nobody has compeletely melded up Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry on their weapon yet, so it goes without saying that the game could just show you the actual caps of the two attributes that are partially melded on the scroll. In which case, say you have 31 or lower for Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry on your weapon and 22 or lower Det, the game does not know if you're going to continue melding more Det, or add more to Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry instead. But even then, you can have a mixture of up to a maximum of 5 different attributes so regardless of how you -want- to meld it, does not mean the game can actually foresee what you will absolutely get at the end until Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry IS capped on the weapon before it gives you a set in stone number value for Det. I think a lot of people have over looked this little fun fact in their arguments.

However, its entirely possible that Novus weapons can exceed the current idea of what an i110 weapon will have on it since it uses Materia to increase/alter the attributes. All crafted equipment has specific caps per attribute, but NOT an overall total cap between secondary attributes. Since there is going to be a ton of speculation on this, its best to keep the speculation down to a minimum until one is completely finished and can give concrete evidence as to whether or not you can cap Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry to 44 AND Det/Pie to 31.

Something people are being blinded by is their own ideas about what this quest will ultimately come down to as far as how different or similar the Novus is compared to the other weapons in the game currently. None of us are actually saying "Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry will cap at 44 and after that Det/Pie can only cap at 22. We are only saying that you should not get your hopes up that you WILL get 44 Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry and 31 Det/Pie. What's actually going on here is people are getting butthurt that they may not get this and they refuse to believe that.

[Shea]

Infuse 26 for Det Savage Might Grade IV on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 94% Result: +1 Det
Infuse 27 for Det Savage Might Grade IV on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 88% Result: +1 Det
Infuse 28 for Det will require Savage Might Grade IV

Total Infusions on scroll: 28
+1/44 Crit
+27/31 Det

[Arkista]

Can anyone translate? Dunno exactly what is being talked about, But it has something to do with Sphere Scrolls and 9 points of something..... And since we lost our translator it will probably be Monday before this is done.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...」の命中力パラメータについて

Also http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/27w0wj/behold_curtana_novus/ Someone has already finished the Curtana.

[Arkista]

snip.

Yeah, I used the translate to. But I'm still not sure what they are talking about, Tairasu-Knowth" and "Madaremujien-Knowth"? I don't want to start up the debate again, But they are talking about +9 points of something, Which is what was talked in last 5 pages or so..... I didn't know if it had anything to do with that or not.


Also trying to find out more about the Curtana Novus this guy finished today.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

Yeah, I used the translate to. But I'm still not sure what they are talking about, Tairasu-Knowth" and "Madaremujien-Knowth"?

I know right?! We tried though!! lol It is very confusing.