Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[wicked-one]

Your "determination" is incredible! :P

Wait wait...

you infuse a Savage Might III Materia which has a +4 on DET and it ends up as a +1 DET on the Scroll!?

So you really have to infuse 75 Piece of Materia and use the Grade II / III / IV just when you are able and have a better chance of infusion, and not because of the better Points?

I guessed a - for example SM III gives you +4 DET so it counts +4 on this 0/75 counter?

So in other words, you really sink 75 + Fails (supposed about 100) Alexandrite and Tons of Gil (Materia Buying) or Time (Crafing + Binding)

[Skyl1n3]

Wait wait...

you infuse a Savage Might III Materia which has a +4 on DET and it ends up as a +1 DET on the Scroll!?

So you really have to infuse 75 Piece of Materia and use the Grade II / III / IV just when you are able and have a better chance of infusion, and not because of the better Points?

I guessed a - for example SM III gives you +4 DET so it counts +4 on this 0/75 counter?

Nope it only counts as +1 Infusion no matter the Tier of the Materia...

[Shea]

Wait wait...

you infuse a Savage Might III Materia which has a +4 on DET and it ends up as a +1 DET on the Scroll!?

So you really have to infuse 75 Piece of Materia and use the Grade II / III / IV just when you are able and have a better chance of infusion, and not because of the better Points?

I guessed a - for example SM III gives you +4 DET so it counts +4 on this 0/75 counter?

So far Grades 1 through 3 have only given +1 Det. I can't speak to the other attributes. You don't use higher grade for higher chance, you HAVE to use higher grade. Once you get to a certain point the lower grades can't be used for that attribute anymore. As for employment yes I'm employed, but I have 26 days of vacation that I had to use or I lose them 30SEP14. So I took two weeks vacation for Wildstar and this patch. Granted I've not only been doing novus =) I've gone to movies, zip lining, and other activities. Give me a good group though and I can do BFHMSRs in 5 min with 550ish myth an hour.

[wicked-one]

So far Grades 1 through 3 have only given +1 Det. I can't speak to the other attributes.

Okay, that´s really not what I wanted to hear... well, at least I know why I saved so much gil ^^

You don't use higher grade for higher chance, you HAVE to use higher grade. Once you get to a certain point the lower grades can't be used for that attribute anymore.

I was guessing that the more Grade I you do, the lower the Chance until you HAVE to use higher grades, instead of completely lock the slot when enough is fused in... but well okay, results the same...

[Sakasa]

Wait I am sorry I am a bit confused I might have missed a few pages since I last read so the scroll has a lock out requiring you to put in a certain number of lets say tier 1 before it allows you to add in a tier 2. But at the same time it allow you to input a tier 2 it locks out tier 1. While that trade is going on the failure rate climbs and for each failure the rate of melding approaches 100% success rate again. So my questions are:

If let say your on the teir 4s of Determination (Det) and you wanted to add Skill Speed (SkS) as your next stat could you start SkS and then then come back to Det when you get your next Det. And if so does SkS start at teir 1s or at the current cap for the other Materia fused stat?

If you fail on teir 1s does the success rate increase the same as if you failed on a higher teir?

Are the success rates shared between stats so I can risk a cheaper materia Sks to increase my success rate high enough to try the more expensive DET?

[Nekodar]

Are the success rates shared between stats so I can risk a cheaper materia Sks to increase my success rate high enough to try the more expensive DET?

The stats are independent of each other.
For each tier of materia, around half of the required materia will have a 100% success rate before it slowly drops off.

Being on Tier IV for one stat have no effect on Tier I of another stat.

[wicked-one]

My guess would be that every Skill/Grade-Slot has it´s own progress in Chances and number of Materias until cap.

but just a guess, and i was wrong often on novus ^^

[wicked-one]

Being on Tier IV for one stat have no effect on Tier I of another stat.

Hm, was just wondering... wouldn´t it be A) better and B) cheaper if you don´t max out 2 stats than distribute for 3-4 Stats

like, what about i fuse until Grade III is full and instead of investing in expensive Grade IV Materias for a +1 anyway, why not buiding up a third or forth stat where i can use Grade I ...

I was planing maybe on CRIT+SS and by this system, i could mix in some ACC for Coil ... and saving lot´s of gil for not buying Grade IVs

it seems this step is made with much potential to mess up...

[Nekodar]

Hm, was just wondering... wouldn´t it be A) better and B) cheaper if you don´t max out 2 stats than distribute for 3-4 Stats

For my Thyrus Novus I'm planning a det, pie, ss distribution such that I don't have to use any tier IV materia at all.
It's entirely up to you what stats and which distribution of those stats you want to put on your weapon, as long as you fully infuse the scroll.
You can put on crit, ss and acc onto stardust rod if you want to (assumption based on listed class here) and would likely save gil that way.

You could of course make your stardust rod useless by putting parry+skill speed on it instead

[Shea]

Okay, that´s really not what I wanted to hear... well, at least I know why I saved so much gil ^^


I was guessing that the more Grade I you do, the lower the Chance until you HAVE to use higher grades, instead of completely lock the slot when enough is fused in... but well okay, results the same...

No you can only use one Grade of Materia ata a time. Dependent upon the number of infuses on that stat.