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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    these novus weapons are alot better than gerolt's works with the new findings.
    Which personally I wouldn't mind given this damned level of grind, but again, if you are a above average raider you might have the HA weapon before you get a Novus (unless you are all out to grind Novus).
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Which personally I wouldn't mind given this damned level of grind, but again, if you are a above average raider you might have the HA weapon before you get a Novus (unless you are all out to grind Novus).
    yea i don't mind, i think it's a good sidegrade if you are dealing with horrible RNG on T9 drops. People that are pushing content already have the gerolt weapons way before Novus's implementation, this would be a weapon to work towards in the long run.
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    these novus weapons are alot better than gerolt's works with the new findings.
    Not a lot better... only barely better. Sure, you can put BiS stats into every single Novus, but I showed a few posts up(or the previous page, depending on where this lands), that the secondaries on a weapon appear to account for very little of the power the weapon slot gives you. The difference between the worst Gerolt Weapon and the best Novus would still be in the ballpark of 1-2% additional power in that slot(Note: Not a overall 1-2% increase in damage. I'm only talking about the contribution of a single equipment slot). Sure, this could amount to 1 more damage per action over the course of a fight, and that adds up over time, but it's not the end of the world if it's not there either. I don't believe that any Novus can beat High Allagan Weapons though, for what it's worth.
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Not a lot better... only barely better. ...
    I'm still leaning towards a non-BiS distribution of materia for my Thyrus as I don't think the materia cost is worth the last few det that can be gained with BiS.

    I'm sure there will be players calling me an idiot for not going BiS, but I don't really care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    I'm still leaning towards a non-BiS distribution of materia for my Thyrus as I don't think the materia cost is worth the last few det that can be gained with BiS.

    I'm sure there will be players calling me an idiot for not going BiS, but I don't really care.
    Oh my god, Nyaano's Cure I's are healing for 2 less than everyone else's! Kiiiiiiick!

    Because that will totally happen. /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Oh my god, Nyaano's Cure I's are healing for 2 less than everyone else's! Kiiiiiiick!

    Because that will totally happen. /sarcasm
    I believe you know how people that strictly only look at stats can be... It would be more like "idiot! putting ss over det!"
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    Eldarion Telcontar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Oh my god, Nyaano's Cure I's are healing for 2 less than everyone else's! Kiiiiiiick!

    Because that will totally happen. /sarcasm
    Noooo....you out of you mind? that's totally not gonna happen...

    OMG this guy has a Gae Bolg with +31det +22crti +22acc.....BiS is +31det +44crit....kick him
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    Does anyone think it a good ideas to Put Crit + Det on Novus Curtana, then Parry + Accuracy on Novus Holy Shield?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    I believe you know how people that strictly only look at stats can be... It would be more like "idiot! putting ss over det!"
    Point taken. But... of all the classes people think Spell/Skill speed hurts, the healers are the least affected, I think. Cure going out faster never hurt anyone, and it's not like you'll be casting it more often because of a lower GCD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Does anyone think it a good ideas to Put Crit + Det on Novus Curtana, then Parry + Accuracy on Novus Holy Shield?
    If you want a weapon compatible with current BiS lists that use High Allagan Gear, then you'll want at least 22-25 Accuracy on your Sword/Shield combo or you'll lose up to 40 Parry I think. I'd personally recommend going strictly Accuracy/Parry, but that's just coming from an idiot currently Tanking in the Second Coil who likes seeing (26% Parried) appear on damage numbers. Well, the ones the shield doesn't get! :P
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    Taja Shin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Does anyone think it a good ideas to Put Crit + Det on Novus Curtana, then Parry + Accuracy on Novus Holy Shield?
    It basically doesn't matter as long as you're hitting the accuracy cap, and you're not putting skill speed on it. There are arguments in support of any/all of Crit/Det/Parry, and their impact is all equally minimal.
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