Delay the Rogue/Ninja class till expansion.

[Dels]

I agree with the first post...I don't think this is a good idea, and I don't think there is going to be a fun leveling experience. The duty finder queue times will likely be unbearably slow for anyone wanting to level this class, and the alternative will just be doing fates surrounded by countless other people leveling the exact same class...If one of each role were released at the same time, there'd be more variety at least. Its going to be really lame leveling a rogue via fates and seeing every other player doing the exact same thing. It'll just be another boring fate grind...because the queue times will be too slow to rely on.

Its also amazing how many people attack the OP here even though he made a valid, well-thought out post...or the amount of people who completely ignore things that have been said and just talk about completely unrelated things.

[Dels]

to the OP, maybe you should calm down and wait.
It took them several days to announce each new job in FFXI, I suspect they are gonna do it like that here as well.
Besides we don't even have 2.3 yet I'm gonna take a wild guess that they aren't gonna reveal everything for 2.4 before 2.3 is released.
they may choose to release more classes/jobs for 2.4 and not reveal them at the E3 at all

You might be right. However...they initially said they were gonna add the knife class and the gunner class after 2.3...Now they reveal only ninja and when asked about gunner, it seems all we were told is that they are working on it, and tank/healer class will only be at expansion. It really makes it seem like the gunner class was a lie/postponed and we're only getting ninja.

[Gerolan]

Why are people so quick to say SE is lying, when their is still two live letters to go, the JP one and the final one, who knows they might reveal another secret in each one
Especially since the advert says "new classes" and so far they have only announced once class and one job

[Wildsprite]

You might be right. However...they initially said they were gonna add the knife class and the gunner class after 2.3...Now they reveal only ninja and when asked about gunner, it seems all we were told is that they are working on it, and tank/healer class will only be at expansion. It really makes it seem like the gunner class was a lie/postponed and we're only getting ninja.

this is true but they have said they had Musketeer planned for a considerable amount of time. my guess is they are still figuring out the semantics of it. atleast I hope that is the case. I would certainly like that class to be a good one. kinda hoping for Corsair as the job for it

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

to the OP, maybe you should calm down and wait. its only E3 day 2 right? they may announce something here today or tomorrow right?
It took them several days or months to announce each new job in FFXI that they had planned for each new expansion, I suspect they are gonna do it like that here as well.
Besides we don't even have 2.3 yet I'm gonna take a wild guess that they aren't gonna reveal everything for 2.4 before 2.3 is released.
they may choose to release more classes/jobs for 2.4 and not reveal them at the E3 at all.

All the translations of the live letters from E3 said no tanks and healers before expansion.

If they reveal more classes and they fill the role, perfect, but as everything indicates, we have a confirmed DPS class and everything else is being delayed.

You know what would be fun? They announce musketeer/gunner as a ranged DPS to come along with ninja LOL.

[DoctorPepper]

People who disagree with me is ok. In fact is perfect, debate is always a needed and very welcome thing in any forum.
I call people who cant read, who cant elaborate a properly made answer, who just came here to say something fun just because of idk... Likes? that people is braindead, and is not my fault is like the 90% of the answers in this thread.

People who disagree with you is ok, as long as you think their answer is acceptable.. lol you asked for opinions and you got them, no need to get mad and call 98% of the forum posters trolls just because they don't agree with your opinion.

I don't think they should hold off on nin for one simple reason, several friends will come back to play the game again when nin is released. I personally don't care if all of Eorzea is made up of ninjas if it means I'll have more people to play with. I choose to look at the bigger picture myself, in the long run they will add more tanks and healers to balance things out and either way I think people will still que up with tanks/healers if the que times are so bad and then spend the tomes on nin. I'll just take turns with my friends personally, both while leveling up and at end game.

[silentwindfr]

i don't see the trouble, more dps, means variety, maybe time to get ride of the habit tu have 1 bard, 2 ranged dps and 1 melee dps.
variety it's always welcome, people need to stop to worries for nothing, even if they add tank and healer, the chance that people decide to level them will be the same as now... meaning. they will prefer play a dps than a tank or healer! nothing will come from add more tank and healer... because it's people that decide what will be played the most.

adding ninja now, allows a better way for balance it before add another class. one new class means new skill and new effect affecting the whole balance of the game. add more will ask a ton of work, the work you do on an expansion, where you add level and area. that give you more freedom on how balance and change the current class for avoid overpowered setup.

[Wildsprite]

All the translations of the live letters from E3 said no tanks and healers before expansion.

If they reveal more classes and they fill the role, perfect, but as everything indicates, we have a confirmed DPS class and everything else is being delayed.

You know what would be fun? They announce musketeer/gunner as a ranged DPS to come along with ninja LOL.

unfortunately making new tank/healer classes and jobs wont solve the issue if people don't want to play those roles the duty finder will remain unbalanced regardless. just because the jobs/classes are there does not mean people will just play them.
many people hate playing tanks or healers, that part wont change so delaying classes/jobs in hopes for balance is kinda pointless.

[Natashio]

im thinking about the overall game experience of playing ninjas for everyone. Is going to suck.
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It's only going to suck for those going to have to pay out an arm and a leg for equipment and stuff, but that is normal for every new candy that comes out. Zodiac relics..yeap. Other than that.. the experience is going to be the same. Nothing will change. And as been mention ump-teem times, there are many forms to level up.

On a side not, once these ninjas hit 50 and want to gear them up with myth and soldiery gear as quickly as possible. If they have a tank/healer at 50 already geared.. Do you think they're going to gear ninja up queuing as ninja for myth/soldiery, hell no I wouldn't.

[Sparky]

People who disagree with you is ok, as long as you think their answer is acceptable.. lol you asked for opinions and you got them, no need to get mad and call 98% of the forum posters trolls just because they don't agree with your opinion.

Didn't you realise? That's how things work on the Internet