Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
Thats the case in most MMOs, that you could say is the industry`s way to deal with things.
Gamers and communities have become used to get half coocked, bad preseted, bad implemented not filling content. As if ATMA threads were not enough, we all have just got over it. Is a peculiar way to see how things works. Gamer`s standars have come so low that anything a devolper does is at best: "not bad enough i can keep playing".

There is a reason why this industry is dying, and there is a reason why SE has not being doing well these few years. Lazy development efforts, an indulgent community. FFXIV:ARR has been a really good experience, do not missunderstand, but as times goes by, quality of content has been going down, since devolopers have noticed, that the love for the game makes everything tolerable. Like ATMAs, like PvP, like sightseeing log.
What is your vision of well presented content, then? I always here this argument that the industry is dying, yet I still see data that presents top MMOs still in the millions of subscribers (albeit a couple of millions or thousands of subs lost to MOBA style games), despite more and more MMOs being added into the mix. The fact is, people like grinds, people like doing the daily work for a shiny weapon at the end of the road. They also like going into the next grind, and/or using their newly obtained weapon to fight monsters to get a newer, more shiny weapon.

FFXIV did not create a new standard, it simply follows standards that are known to work successfully, and created it's own success from it. SE is doing well now, thanks to FFXI still bringing in the numbers from dedicated subbers, and now the newly acclaimed FFXIV: ARR. And delvelopment efforts have been anything but "lazy." Laziness cannot take a very dead and failing MMO, reimage and re-release it, and come out sucessful without some serious work put in. There's a reason why people say FFXIV: ARR set an unheard of precedent with it's sucesss -- it is literally the only MMO that has recovered from it's own initial failings, something unheard of in the MMO community.

The indulgent community however, I will agree with you on.