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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I still don't think it would have a lower cap than 31. I'll go jump on the game and check but I'm pretty sure on Sphere Scroll it says 0/31 for DET. So if they were to cap DET why would it say0/31 and not something like 0/22? We'll find out soon enough anyways since Shea is about to be on meld #20 for DET.
    It does say 0/31 for Det but all that means is 0/31 Infusion. Until someone finishes all 75 melds assuming 44 crit 31 det, we'll never know for sure. IIRC, there has been no single piece that has secondary stats at caps for more than 1 stat. As for why it says 0/31 instead of 0/22? Probably to make it fair towards other combinations not involving Determination so people all have to meld 75 times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    But crit is not at maximum of 44. Which is why I'm thinking you'll only be able to max out 1 stat.
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    I get what you're saying about it, But I don't think SE would do that. If they did it would be screwed up. Probably 2-3 more days and Shea might be done with DET.
    Still wouldn't confirm anything if he hasn't maxed crit/acc/sps on it. Even then, he'd need to make it a novus to confirm. It'd be nice if you can have 44 crit 31 det but... it's SE we're talking about and I have less faith in them than you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    snip.
    I get what you're saying about it, But I don't think SE would do that. If they did it would be screwed up. Probably 2-3 more days and Shea might be done with DET.
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    Just wait for some one to get to the point of infusing the 23rd might materia and visit jal zahn, if the stats on the product show 22 stats then its 1 mat and alex wadted but you know determination is capped, if i do this then ill throw the remaining infuses into acc after capping crit rate for my gae bolg.
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    Infuse 20 Savage Might Grade III on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 80% Result: +1 Det
    Infuse 21 Savage Might Grade III on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 70% Result: +1 Det
    Infuse 22 will rquire Savage Might Grade III
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    So.... the 'alexandrites from fates' thing is jsut a great big joke to see who's gullible enough to keep doing fates, right? Because at 250+ fates now without an alexandrite I'm beginning to feel like the butt of a joke. It's not just atma zones is it? I've done a lot in Coerthas/N. Thanalan/ Mor Dhona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Still wouldn't confirm anything if he hasn't maxed crit/acc/sps on it. Even then, he'd need to make it a novus to confirm. It'd be nice if you can have 44 crit 31 det but... it's SE we're talking about and I have less faith in them than you do.
    If it had a cap then why wouldn't it say so? If you look at Piety on Spharia it has a cap of 23, If SE was going to make DET cap at a lower value when finished, Then why even put the cap at 31?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
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    Yeah. I never had it too bad with Atma, but this is frustrating. I'm only going after one tbh, otherwise it will all have been for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    Infuse 20 Savage Might Grade III on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 80% Result: +1 Det
    Infuse 21 Savage Might Grade III on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 70% Result: +1 Det
    Infuse 22 will rquire Savage Might Grade III
    Shea, it's been over an hour since your last meld . . . . WTF slacker. ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    If it had a cap then why wouldn't it say so? If you look at Piety on Spharia it has a cap of 23, If SE was going to make DET cap at a lower value when finished, Then why even put the cap at 31?
    Because piety is not a native stat to monk so it's natural that piety cap would be lower. I'd guess spell-speed has a lower cap on Sphairai than Omnilex/Thyrus/Stardust Rod/Veil of Wiyu. This is based from past experience like that one guy assuming piety caps are the same on bard gear vs healer gear while it's not the case a while back.
    But like I said, it's all speculation right now. Your guess is as good as mine. No point in arguing about it until someone actually finishes one.
    Also, because Determination cap for i110 is actually 31. It doesn't mean you'll be able to cap Determination AND Crit/SkS/SpS/Acc if the Novus follows the general trends of being only capped on 1 stat, see Book of Spades. It also assumes that SE doesn't want people to cap 2 stats if they choose Determination while not being able to cap 2 stats if they do not, for example crit and sps, both can't reach cap of 44 as we only have 75 points.
    As speculation again, you have a choice to either do 44 crit 22 det or 31 crit 31 det after 75 melds depending on which one you cap first.
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