Offer incentives for carrying people through old fights

[Seif]

This would probably soften the verbal abuse going on in those fights too.

Failing that at least provide a way to train these fights solo first?
I'm going to be honest here:

I watched videos and read strategies online on how to do ultima hard and garuda EX.
While I knew somewhat what to expect I didn't actually "learn" to act in those fights before I basically practiced it in DF over and over.
Because I could only practice in DF that meant that everyone unfortunate enough to be there had no hope of getting kills before I eventually managed to adapt my skills to the various stages of the fight.

I don't think this is fair to me or anyone else playing. Plus everytime I signed up I had this terrible quilt for not being pro at it yet. It almost made me not want to play and when I expressed my newb-ness other players would jump ship right away.

[Saccharin]

E.G. 500 myth points for completing turn 5 with someone in the group who hasn't defeated it before.

I don't even know why there's a duty finder for fights like Titan EX, Leviathan EX and turn 5. They never succeed.

Give experienced players a reason to help other players through the content please that doesn't involve selling a run.

So you know how that could be exploited: bring one new player so the seven 'pros' can get fast myth.

This would probably soften the verbal abuse going on in those fights too.

Failing that at least provide a way to train these fights solo first?

That defeats the purpose of an MMO. You are not (well should not be) expected to be perfect at it first go. The problem lies with the people who expect a one shot not the new people.

[reality_check]

So you know how that could be exploited: bring one new player so the seven 'pros' can get fast myth.

How is that an exploit? Do you know how many more people would get to clear these fights if that was the case?

[Saccharin]

How is that an exploit? Do you know how many more people would get to clear these fights if that was the case?

Let's call it abused then.

[reality_check]

Let's call it abused then.

I still don't see the problem.

[AmnesiaHaze]

So you know how that could be exploited: bring one new player so the seven 'pros' can get fast myth.

what you call a "exploit" id consider as helpfulness even though the motives behind it could be selfish , it would still serve a greater good purpose for both the ones needing help and those just wanting fast tomes

[Najara]

So you know how that could be exploited: bring one new player so the seven 'pros' can get fast myth.



That defeats the purpose of an MMO. You are not (well should not be) expected to be perfect at it first go. The problem lies with the people who expect a one shot not the new people.

Invite every newbie to my FC, cater them, pamper them and get them to Coil T5 so I can farm it up all day off of them lolol.