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  1. #21
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    Anorex's Avatar
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    Anorex's House
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    There is an incentive. It's called you pay for it.
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  2. #22
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    Jesse Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    So you want 7 other people go out of their way to help a complete extranger that probably will never going to see or remember?
    Yes, this would actually be quite a nice addition to the game. As for the "going out of their," the reward is supposed to make it worth while for them.
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  3. #23
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    Duranu Lithdel
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    There is a difference in being carried, and being the diamond in the rough surrounded by Lackluster players. He is simply saying that the players that are stuck with the lackluster players and cannot progress would like the help of the seasoned players that can make short work of the instances so progress can begin again instead of being stuck for weeks on end because people just cant seem to figure out that the big circle under you means run the fuck away.
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  4. #24
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    Yumi Umi
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    That was just an example. There are many other ways they could reward people for helping more inexperienced players.
    There will never be anything past duty roulette bonus and a simple thank you from newer players.
    It's more so selfless good deeds. If you are not helping ppl out of good intentions then u shouldn't be helping at all as you are only trying to help yourself. This applies to carrying as no one knows who will get carried in a fight till they actually run the fight with that party/ people, unless they are mercs and are carrying via paid runs/ clears.

    Tldr : you help / carry if you want to but don't expect to get any rewards outside of the ingame completion bonuses and other player's gratification via thank yous or commendations.
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  5. #25
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    Yumi Umi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranu View Post
    There is a difference in being carried, and being the diamond in the rough surrounded by Lackluster players. He is simply saying that the players that are stuck with the lackluster players and cannot progress would like the help of the seasoned players that can make short work of the instances so progress can begin again instead of being stuck for weeks on end because people just cant seem to figure out that the big circle under you means run the fuck away.
    No other content is locked behind sister requisite fights.
    I.e garuda ex > titan ex > ifrit ex > king mog and levi ex.
    The only fight that is gated is T5 > T6 .
    Gear peogression on the other hand.
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  6. #26
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    Sayina Kha
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    Balmung
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    I personally have to disagree with there being incentive for "carrying" somebody through a fight, you shouldn't need a reward for helping somebody.
    Honestly, if there was something like that added for helping a new person people would be more harsh on them if they don't get the clear and bash on them for wasting their time and not getting myth out of it.
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  7. #27
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    Beowolf Destroyer
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranu View Post
    There is a difference in being carried, and being the diamond in the rough surrounded by Lackluster players. He is simply saying that the players that are stuck with the lackluster players and cannot progress would like the help of the seasoned players that can make short work of the instances so progress can begin again instead of being stuck for weeks on end because people just cant seem to figure out that the big circle under you means run the fuck away.
    You'd still get people with no idea looking for a carry
    I still disagree with this ...people have statics for a reason to learn and clear together!!
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  8. #28
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    Shouldn't the only reason to help someone be from the goodness of your heart? Since when does helping need incentive.

    I can understand giving incentive for people to run the DF, like they did with Roulette, but that's about it. Like open up a BCoB1 Roulette and a EX Primal Roulette.
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    Last edited by ShinkuTachi; 06-08-2014 at 05:10 AM.

  9. #29
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    Amnesiahaze Conjurer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    So you know how that could be exploited: bring one new player so the seven 'pros' can get fast myth.
    what you call a "exploit" id consider as helpfulness even though the motives behind it could be selfish , it would still serve a greater good purpose for both the ones needing help and those just wanting fast tomes
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  10. #30
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    E.G. 500 myth points for completing turn 5 with someone in the group who hasn't defeated it before.

    I don't even know why there's a duty finder for fights like Titan EX, Leviathan EX and turn 5. They never succeed.

    Give experienced players a reason to help other players through the content please that doesn't involve selling a run.
    I think you need a "reality check" here. There's no reason that anyone should be carried through any sort of substantial content. There's absolutely no real reason forcing people to do Extreme Primals, Coil, etc besides gear and the challenge of the content. If they're not good enough to do it on their own then why should they get carried? They need to do what everyone else who has cleared it as a group has done; learn the fight after practicing it. If they can't beat it with the group they have then they need to look elsewhere or replace the weak links in their existing group and keep at it until it's cleared. If they can't beat an encounter then they don't deserve to be doing the later content.

    All offering a huge incentive like 500 myth for a clear run does is flood the newer content which is gated by older content with players who don't know how to play their job and can't react to mechanics.
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