Relic quest summary -> Good by to casuals

[Orophin]

Whilst they are difficult (pfffft not difficult - time consuming!) to obtain, compared to XI we still have it easy whilst still keeping the spirit of what these relic quests are intended to be.

You mean the spirit of grinding or outright buying 100s of currency while the last part of the quest (beating the weapon NM) actually being the challenging part? It's really no different here. It took longer in FFXI because of the 3 day lockout of Dynamis.

There's nothing hard about this quest. If I had my way the final step would be beating the t9 boss for the final transformation. Do your daily quest, and wait for hunts. It's not rocket science.

Or you know, people could wait for SCoB to get nerfed 3 months from now and they can go get a weapon that's better and probably takes less effort.

The Novus weapon is the only good alternative for people who can't complete cutting edge content as it's relevant. Until SE changes their philosophy on this, only people who can't do the best content as it's relevant or those with a lot of time to play are going to seriously pursue this.

[Nero]

The Novus weapon is the only good alternative for people who can't complete cutting edge content as it's relevant. Until SE changes their philosophy on this, only people who can't do the best content as it's relevant or those with a lot of time to play are going to seriously pursue this.

Can people stop with the assumption that only people who can't complete coil go for them? There are also those who do not like to run coil at all and those who simply want the "shiny" and like grind more than raids. Have hardly anything to do with "can't".

[Orophin]

Can people stop with the assumption that only people who can't complete coil go for them? There are also those who do not like to run coil at all and those who simply want the "shiny" and like grind more than raids. Have hardly anything to do with "can't".

Why would someone not want to actually try to do a piece of content available? There's important story tied behind Coil and I would think people playing an FF game would want to experience that, regardless of whatever the drops are.

Regardless of what you say, I think in most cases it comes down to can't and not won't.

[Nero]

Why would someone not want to actually try to do a piece of content available? There's important story tied behind Coil and I would think people playing an FF game would want to experience that, regardless of whatever the drops are.

Regardless of what you say, I think in most cases it comes down to can't and not won't.

Like i said. I am doing coil and also doing the Zodiak Line, but Coil is not a Major Aspect for me and not for everyone. I am not saying that your assumption would not fit for certain people, but assuming it does for everyone is straight wrong. It is like saying every BLM is braindead, because all you need is to press x amount of buttons. And since i see many BLM's, which really don't play that great, would that mean they are beyond any measureable level of stupidity? Would that be right to say, or correct to assume? No it would not and is not.

Playing a certain kind of content, or prefering something else than the highest Raids, does not classifiy your skill, playtime, or if you are "hardcore" or "casual". It is just personal preferences and what is fun for you.