Relic quest summary -> Good by to casuals

[A-Shock]

Why does a casual player (i'm assuming this means they arent running coil or coil2) even need an i110 weapon?

I dont see why you'd need more than i70 for story content.

O_o

Just because people are "casual" doesn't mean they don't want to progress... Get outta here with that kind of attitude.

[PixelPirate]

There's nothing hard about this quest. If I had my way the final step would be beating the t9 boss for the final transformation. Do your daily quest, and wait for hunts. It's not rocket science.

Basically this. Time investment =/= hardcore. That's basic MMO understanding 101. I fail to see how this separates hardcore from casuals.

[Welsper59]

You can thank the 7th console gen and the Wii, with it's library of party games and shovelware, for distorting what the term "casual gamer" means within the gamer community.

You don't blame the tools, you blame the carpenter. The general public is just too weak minded to understand what it means. They're so desperate to stand out and "be something", that they never learn (or forget) what defines something as casual play. "Casual" is, and will always be, the methodology. Is it a simpler and easier accessed means of acquisition compared to something else of equal or near-equal worth? It's a casual approach if it is. Time, to some extent, is irrelevant.

[joab777]

Im a hardcore player I guess and im already tired of myth grinding. 60k seems insane. They better change it so that u get myth just for logging in everyday, myth for crafting, extra myth for helping ppl, myth traveling a certain distance. Maybe clear the logs and give us myth.

Cuz, I dont care if u can speedrun everything, this is gonna be crazy.

My biggest issue is that I wish they added a different tome that u got in addition to myth and soldiery. B/c while I am grinding myth for the next 2 months, I cant use any of it on new characters.

[captain_crunch]

Just because people are "casual" doesn't mean they don't want to progress... Get outta here with that kind of attitude.

I suppose they/you need full i110 armor and a high allagan weapon too then?

[Brainberry]

I really dont get why people who have time to farm for the Novus just go the SCOB route instead. Sure its harder but its much less grindy and you end up with a better weapon anyways.

[Nero]

Novus : 60000 Myth OR 75 days of map -> 75++ Days if doing daily quest + materia melding failure wasted days

You may want to change the bold part, or wait for comfirmation. As far as i am aware, you will only lose the Materia and not the Alexandrite. Could someone confirm or deny, who did fail an attempt?

[Welsper59]

You may want to change the bold part, or wait for comfirmation. As far as i am aware, you will only lose the Materia and not the Alexandrite. Could someone confirm or deny, who did fail an attempt?

Folks on Reddit apparently confirmed that it's just the materia. It supposedly gives you a msg saying you won't lose the Alexandrite.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._wont_lose_it/

[shanvhere]

I won't be able to do this cause of no time

[joab777]

Also, while I dont think time always equals hardcore, many casual players simply cannot play as much but still love the game.

This questing can b seen from 2 perspectives. It can be seen as a casual q uestline of sorts. Instead of having to grind leviathan ex or turn 9, u can slowly do this to keep up. U will always be behind but its an alternative to higher level static content.

But it can also b viewed as SE's answer to FF11 fans who love the grind and consider it to be what separates hardcore from casual.

Kinda funny how this is. I guess it depends on the definition of casual.