Sightseeing...

[Taruranto]

The don't wait. Go there when the setting is right.

And when that is, you genius. People have no way to know.

Some of us relish the moment when everything aligns up properly. Videogames don't have to be just about fun, they can also be emotionally enriching in other ways too.

What the fuck? No, they should be about fun.

I think surrounding yourself with the mechanics of Eorzeas nature can be part of that enrichment if you let yourself relax and soak it in.

OH GREAT YOSHI-P, YES, I SAW THE LIGHT BECAUSE MY CHARACTE STAYED ON THE TOP OF A LAMP FOR 20 MINUTES UNTIL THE WEATHER WENT TO RAINY TO CLEAR

And let's not forget the moment when I spent 30 minutes for midnight to come, only for the weather to go to foggy, making the whole thing useless.

Oh yeah, and that afternoon spent inside a building waiting for the weather to get foggy so I could see what the tanners were doing. Truly a magical experience it couldn't be replicate with another weather!

I'm enriched and enlighten!

Btw, the NPC in this game doesn't even have a day-night cycle, so what the hell?

If the patience required such a burden, you really don't need to focus on (or even attempt) it at all.
It just seems to be making a big deal out of nothing.

I think this is how they planed for it to be approached.
Maybe if it logged reminders and/or alerted you when the setting was right people might be less upset.

NO THEY DON'T, THAT'S WHY THERE IS A LOG YOU HAVE TO FUCKING DECIPHERER AND THAT REQUIRES YOU TO WALK AND CHECK THE GROUND FOR A 1X1 SQUARE THAT ACTIVATES THE EVENT, YOU DON'T STUMP ON IT RANDOMLY, DID YOU FREACKING DO IT.

AND EVEN IF YOU DO STUMP ON IT RANDOMLY GOOD LUCK GETTING 80 LOGS WITH THE RIGHT WEATHER, TIME AND EMOTE FOR ALL THE 80 LOGS BY "HAPPENING ACROSS THEM"

[Quesse]

I love the idea, but yeah, this wasn't implemented well. Honestly, I don't see why every location requires a very specific time of day as well as weather, especially when the clues will hint at one or the other, rarely both, and sometimes at neither.

It is definitely confusing. So much, that one wonders if it is deliberately so.

[Mjollnir]

I would have done it like this:

• Get clue from the log.
• Find location (all locations would be up on the internet in a week anyhow, so essentially 'Look up location').
• At location, have an Echo flashback of the person who gave the clue (lingering aetherflow due to the strength of feelings provoked there, Echoing off a 'ghost')
• Mini Echo cutscene, just 10 secs, looking at that person. Still image added to your Sightseeing Log.
• The player then reviews the still from the log and identifies what head/body/hands/legs/feet that person was wearing from sight.
• The player then revisits the location dressed in that gear, on the specified class to get the unlock. Gear worn gets 1% spiritbond to prevent resale.

Note that the gear worn by the person in the Echo is craftable only and random (though obvs equippable by their class), so there's no possibility to just look it up online.

This is better because:
a) it showcases the new gear preview function
b) it facilitates crafters selling all types of craftable gear on the Markets
c) players can't look up the solutions on a list (like this accursed one) and plough through the content with ease
d) it doesn't have the frustrating (for some) random time/weather lockout, and yet is still time-consuming
e) it encourages players to level up all of their classes, if they find a location that requires equipment of a high-level class they don't have levelled yet (and rewards players with all classes capped)
f) it uses The Echo in the way it was originally intended and not as some dumb combat buff
g) it exercises people's brains as they have to identify gear from actually looking and investigating (not just from a list to tick off, with arrows pointing the way and big red circles to reach like a lot of content)

Basically, it's all win and I should totally design version 3.0 of FFXIV from my armchair.

[Vispor]

Sightseeing is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in any video game. Is Tanaka back in charge now?

[Mug]

The descriptions of where each Vista is, are fine. I enjoy trying to figure out exactly what they're referring to. The weather/time thing however is just awfully explained. Or not explained at all. I'm trying to get the first one done. All I had to go on was "under the azure". Fine, I assume that means clear weather. Apparently it's fair weather. And you have to do it after 8am, which the description says absolutely nothing about. Just a simple "in the morning" would have helped.

Sometimes I wonder if they actually test these things properly. Like, actually have someone do these things from start to finish. I was asking myself the same thing when they added the Atma quest. I can't for the life of me imagine that their Q&A team did the entire Atma quest from start to finish and deemed it "ok". I can't imagine they did the entire Sightseeing log either, and gave the same reply.

Yoshida's words about listening to the playerbase and not putting players under a lot of "stress" come to mind. It would be nice hearing his reasoning behind adding this type of content and how exactly we're supposed to enjoy doing it.

[Felis]

And when that is, you genius. People have no way to know.

Asking the weather NPC that come with 2.3

[Genesis-xyx]

Personally, I really enjoy the sightseeing log. The only thing I would change about it would be to add a cutscenes when you've discovered it, to truly showcase the beauty in the spot. Perhaps something like a flashback to the character who wrote about it in the log. #2 in Limsa would be quite funny to watch

[Mug]

Personally, I really enjoy the sightseeing log. The only thing I would change about it would be to add a cutscenes when you've discovered it, to truly showcase the beauty in the spot. Perhaps something like a flashback to the character who wrote about it in the log. #2 in Limsa would be quite funny to watch

There's not even a small cutscene? Wow.

[Fated]

this is how i spent about 9 hours of my day today




seriously, this is stupid. that spot isn't a "view"

This is both hilarious and unfortunate.

[KoujiMoreno]

this is how i spent about 9 hours of my day today




seriously, this is stupid. that spot isn't a "view"

SE: Lol thanks for the munnies.