WTF WHMs?

[Socalbourne]

Cause it is fun to cast and feel like you are doing damage and healing the group. Healers can multi-task!

[LyrioDC]

So...I don't think you had to complain about White Mages using Holy...since you know, half the time they get yelled at to Holy and make the run faster. And hey, I get bored and use Holy when there are 3 mobs left...because why not? xD

I'd only complain if they killed the group because they were spamming Holy too much or ran out of MP and held the group up for a long time. But it doesn't sound like they were doing anything other than helping out with some DPS >.<

[AiChyan]

Its so easy to recover mana in between those pulls really, I had times in brayflox hm in which my mana went down to like 100 mp and I simply shrouded myself and my mana was up and good in no time. Ballad is only justified when a WHM raises +2 times or if they themselves died. Other than that is completely unnecessary.
And yes, I holy any mob that exceeds 1.

[Yumi_umi]

I'm doing 700-1600 dps on the trash in Brayflox HM. I was even beating my friend's BLM on a lot of the pulls. Granted, it was kinda unfair since I'm rockin an i110 weapon while he had a 95. The nerf to Holy was very justified.

It was lol probs cuz blms were complaining that the original holy beated their flare. Because you know... Probably one of the only reasons y ppl bring blm along is cuz of their bursty aoes right?
I remember too that back then before the holy nerf a few blms told the tank that they couldn't help that their flares took a while to setup when compared to holy.
But i hate derp bards that put ballad on when we have high mp and don't put ballad up when the fight is dragging on longer than it should have, it's like bards have a hard time gauging on when to use ballad.
Probably tunnel vision on boss right?

[BinaryJack]

What you are saying is no different to me deciding "hey that dps could have dodge that hit or popped some CDs so I might not decide to heal him because hey maybe they just see me as a unlimited supply of health.

This made me laugh!

[AngelicSence]

Oh no.. Holy was nerfed not because it's strong. It's because people kept asking WHMs to DPS and heal multi task. Like producer said "Healers are healers, not dpsers. We don't want to put extra pressure on players and or steal other classes role". Holy is nothing to compare Blms hell combo. Blms are capable of dealing up to 3k damage with single spell. even if we bring back original holy damage on the table (240 potency), even then Blms can easily out dps whms.

I agree with many people here who said "as long as healers are healing and not letting party members die, they can dps" nothing wrong with that. It's actually very good. However, I don't think it's a smart idea to spam holy on a single mob ( 2 - 3 is still ok ) and spamming it so hard that whm run out of mana and not ready for next pull..? that's something about player skills and not whms community.

[AngelicSence]

Cause it is fun to cast and feel like you are doing damage and healing the group. Healers can multi-task!

welcome to my world!

Bright light, shine down on bloody impurity.. Holy!

After you kill mobs with holy (and finished them all) just walk away nice and slow... because it's cool that way

[Pantz]

If no one is dying, what's your problem? Most WHMs can manage their MP very well. Just mind your own business and stop thinking all WHMs are too stupid to manage their own mana.

The only time you should complain about a healer is if they aren't doing their job. i.e Keeping people alive.

[Whatley]

A summary of the postings here.

With the original post I mainly just wanted to know what was up with the spamming of the Holy spell. I was a bit angry when I wrote it and I shouldn't of been.

To the people that replied with information about the spell and the spamming, Thank You. I don't have a Lv.50 WHM so I didn't know. Like I said in a previous post, I feel the need to use Mage's Ballad whenever I see the healer's mp at about half or less. This person said it best as that we(Bards) freak out when we see the low mp of a healer:

You got it all wrong. The WHM Holying and burning their MP does not need you to recover it, they can do it by themselves with SoS and between the pulls. I've wondered why BRDs try to ballad me instead of swiftsong and requiem, but I guess you just answered my question: they're freaking out. No WHM who knows what they're doing and are well geared (item level 90+) should need ballad in any of the level 50 dungeons, ever.

[Whatley]

To the people that think this thread is about yelling at WHMs to not do damage, you are wrong. It is about the useage of mana. I don't mind if a WHM dps' as long as they are able to keep the party alive as well.

If no one is dying, what's your problem? Most WHMs can manage their MP very well. Just mind your own business and stop thinking all WHMs are too stupid to manage their own mana.

The only time you should complain about a healer is if they aren't doing their job. i.e Keeping people alive.

Part of a Bard's business is to help out the group, which includes the healers when they are low on mp. Otherwise why would Bards have Mage's Ballad if no one needs it? After reading the replies here and some of the posts in the DPS forums, it seems that the only songs people want are Foe Requiem and Swiftsong.