WTF WHMs?

[Pantz]

Along with the immediate MP concerns. Stone 2 hits only 1 target, which is why I said "if it's only 2 mobs". Unlike Holy, which presents immediate MP problem, you administer Stone 2 relatively slowly, allowing the natural MP regen to mitigate the MP usage

What MP concerns? Learn to manage MP better then.

If you have full or near full MP, use holy. If you have 1/3 MP, don't use. Simple.

I doubt using holy three or four times when I have full MP gives me "immediate MP problem". Be more adaptable and stop sticking to just one thing. Change it depending on the circumstances.

[AngelicSence]

Change it depending on the circumstances.

^ this. We all have to analyze the situation, then decide whether to use holy or stone 2.

Since we can't predict the future, everyone here is wrong and right.

[Sanguisio]

Is this seriously going ?

If a WHM wants to holy let them, im sure they are fully aware of their MP requirements, or at least more so than other members in the party.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Holy can help in a lot of fights. Holy in BFSR with a Paladin is amazing. Holy can help clear plumes in GEX. You can Holy in T8 during the Dread once or twice to add damage.

I love Holy when its used right.

[YanDere]

I only use Holy when I see my MP not decreasing with heals, like in coil t4 with ilvl85 and Echo buff.
Using Holy on 2-3 mobs is too much, I usually use Aero or Aero II sometimes to help on dpsing, but for the rest, I think this is a simple complaining post. This thread is going nowhere, you complain, we answer, end.
Well, if it makes you feel better, don't worry, there's still plenty of good WHMs out there, go and find them.

[mraz_syah]

i holy every time, even in lvl5 adds roaming in eorzea ,coz they're evil

[Zaleralph]

A good whitemage will manage to use SoS efficiently and asks for Mage's Ballad only if necessary.

[Sanguisio]

Zalera do you have a heal class ?

There are times especially in turn 8, when SoS is needed for aggro. So even though it is easy to say, use SoS appropriately and you wont have mana issues on occasion this isnt the case.

Obviously if everything goes according to plan, it should be Ok.

[Okashii]

Zalera do you have a heal class ?

There are times especially in turn 8, when SoS is needed for aggro. So even though it is easy to say, use SoS appropriately and you wont have mana issues on occasion this isnt the case.

Obviously if everything goes according to plan, it should be Ok.

I rarely use SoS for aggro issues. A couple of times just to make things easier. It's mostly for MP. As for T8 in particular I only use it for MP unless something really bad happened and I happen to have it up. I know when dreads are coming, so I don't use med2 before and I don't AoE heal during. When it's about to appear, I might stoneskin the tank. I put virus on the dread, sch puts virus on the avatar, and I use cure1's without the freecure proc until after the tank definitely has it. Then I can use my procs. There generally shouldnt be a need for anything more potent there as long as the whm and sch are used to the pacing. Adl/physic+embrace+cure1 with viruses on both targets and fast DPS should be fine as long as the tank's got the dread pull down.

If what you are talking about is getting aggro on the avatar due to healing, though, then you should check out how you are pacing your heals, look at your overhealing, and cut back on cure3 -- it's only needed if something goes wrong in the final phase with allagan field. I use mostly regens and cure1 on the tank, paced relatively slowly with the incoming damage. usually try to land a heal right after the cleave followed by an esuna. Time med2 to go off right after defensive reactor and the raid wont need more heals (a targeted heal though I think is necessary for the one with tether). This way seems to really even out the MP pace for whm and sch on this turn while keeping aggro down. Before you could ever catch up in hate, you should already have used SoS for mp regen.

Additionally, you may want to check out what the tank is doing. They need to be doing whatever they can to keep hate through the various phases. Don't let them try to slip by with only using 1-2-3 in the case of a pld. They need to use a little burst enmity on that dread where they can, and their off-gcd moves are perfect for that and for keeping that much more ahead of enmity on the avatar for when dreads arent about to spawn.