Solutions to stop speedrunning

[Giantguy]

your not a tank, change your class. speed runs help everyone get Tomes, saves time. But I do get your point.

[LOLyYOUcryin]

lol... eff all that not everyone has all day to play, wife, kids, work, school, speed runs or nothing. dont like em? dont join em. dont wanna chance doing one? set up pf and say normal runs. simple as that.

[Lucke]

I would like optional objectives in Dungeons, they can slow the pace and offer rewards. Using Brayflox as an example:

Defeat every mob: +10 Solidery
Allow 3 adds to spawn for the first boss then kill them: +5 Soldiery
Open every chest: +5 Solidery
Defeat the Gobbie beak before the mob that summons them, then defeat the gobbie that summons them: +5 Soldiery
Blow up the big bomb on the final boss: +5 Solidery.

Takes much longer per run to do these objectives, but you get something out of it. Or SE could just iLVL sync everyone doing to level 50 or whatever. No more pulling a million mobs at once.

[spaace]

Solution to stop speed running; uninstall, turn off the computer, go outside.

[Sax]

Because I'm not in a hurry. I like to take detours, looking around for details I have missed in my previous runs, chatting and joking with the party... I want to experience the dungeon, not go in, dump my heals, and get my tomes on the way out like a worker in an assembly line.

But what about the people who don't want to do this? Why do your wants and needs take precedent over the wants and needs of others? This is the ultimate fallacy of the argument to stop speed runs - You argue that you're being denied your right to play the dungeon in the way you would like to, yet you would impose rules that deny others the right to play the dungeon the way they want to. DF runs are designed to be dynamic. You adapt to the wants and needs of the party (at that point in time) and run it a little differently to what you may have anticipated, or you leave and create your own groups with like minded people. That's the beauty of the PF system.

(also not using you as specifically you, but those with the general attitude that SRs are inherently bad and should be banned)

[Fuyuu]

... this thread needs to get locked. By the time everyone realise the problem is not SR itself, next patch will be up and no one will worry about it any more.




Ugh!

[Vesuvias]

Personally i think what they need to do is not scale you to the dungeon but scale the dungeon to you, and release two versions of the dungeon at the same time, release the normal mode that gives a good reward but really isnt comparable to the following hard mode. then release a hard mode that can only be cleared with difficulty at say i90 gear or better and then GET RID OF rowena as a vender of tome gear, and have that gear drop from the corresponding hardmode dungeons, but if they do this they need to get rid of the lock outs like we have in coils, or if they have to have a lock out well go the CT route but to me lock outs suck and only kill my enjoyment of the game.

but also if they go this route i think they should add maybe one or two more chests to the bosses as that way you dont have the insanity that is say ct where you you grind for 1 week and dont get the items you want or something for your class. It is just a thought based on they way dungeons work in another game i play, that i think could improve this game and make gear more progress based and it would get rid of speed running like this insanity,hopefully

[Moqi]

Why do your wants and needs take precedent over the wants and needs of others?

I never said that!? Nicobo asked why anyone wouldn't want to speedrun and I answered. I say upfront that I don't want to speedrun if people ask. If they still want to, I leave. My queues are fast, I don't care.

[Sax]

I never said that!? Nicobo asked why anyone wouldn't want to speedrun and I answered. I say upfront that I don't want to speedrun if people ask. If they still want to, I leave. My queues are fast, I don't care.

That's why I said not you in particular, rather those with the general attitude that SRs are inherently bad and should be banned.

[StubHub]

I say upfront that I don't want to speedrun if people ask. If they still want to, I leave. My queues are fast, I don't care.

And the queues for the DPS that also joined your run are not, and i assure you they care. I hope you hold no ill will against tanks that want speedruns bailing on undergeared DPS parties because frankly, your view is not much different.