PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[65shion]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up with a really low rank. Where is that competitive scene you are talking about, are we really playing the same game?

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

[Okazaki]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up -snip-

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

Excuse me , but people exploiting through dungeons also dont affect my experience directly, and SE is more than happy to punish those who abuse it. The queues take long because the pool of people legitimately doing pvp has decreased, and having people exploit the queing system to never show up on anyone elses game is a DIRECT result that does in fact affect my queue time/ experience as you call it.

[Beetle]

Excuse me , but people exploiting through dungeons also dont affect my experience directly, and SE is more than happy to punish those who abuse it. The queues take long because the pool of people legitimately doing pvp has decreased, and having people exploit the queing system to never show up on anyone elses game is a DIRECT result that does in fact affect my queue time/ experience as you call it.

Because people doing pvp tradewins causes you to have slower que times? Wrong. They Que faster because the groups are near each other ranks. If a group cant match another group near there rank some downtime happens (5mins) and it ques with the next lowerest ranking group. Also not many people actually queing for pvp so you would still have instences to enter. When que times take hour... that when stuff is full and also busy.

Say Rank4 Group vs Rank160 group it take about 5-10mins still to actually que up together regurdless if it was a premade or not. Its SE way a matching ranking teams together. If group rank50 vs rank 45 they que within about 5secs.

[Beetle]

double post

[Logo]

Because people doing pvp tradewins causes you to have slower que times? Wrong. They Que faster because the groups are near each other ranks. If a group cant match another group near there rank some downtime happens (5mins) and it ques with the next lowerest ranking group. Also not many people actually queing for pvp so you would still have instences to enter. When que times take hour... that when stuff is full and also busy.

Yeah because having a ton of overgeared wintrading cheats in iLVL 90 gear won't affect frontlines at all.
Thanks for ruining the game.

[Woona]

Yeah because having a ton of overgeared wintrading cheats in iLVL 90 gear won't affect frontlines at all.
Thanks for ruining the game.

not saying this will happen, but some people just want the gear for vanity. i doubt a lot of them will continue pvping and do frontlines once they get their pretties.

[Logo]

not saying this will happen, but some people just want the gear for vanity. i doubt a lot of them will continue pvping and do frontlines once they get their pretties.

Kinda takes away the luster of earning it.
Maybe people should hack coil just for the glamour.
keep justifying though.

[Beetle]

Kinda takes away the luster of earning it.
Maybe people should hack coil just for the glamour.
keep justifying though.

In 1.0 you had to single craft hole bunch of stuff toget a golden hammer and in 2.0 you could auto-craft 99 of them and watch TV.
About 13 hours later of auto-crafting you got your golden hammer. Keep justifying your point.

[Elvin]

Kinda takes away the luster of earning it.
Maybe people should hack coil just for the glamour.
keep justifying though.

But those guys are not hacking anything. They're just letting theirselves die.

I'm totally ok if people wants to let theirselves die in Coil Too

[Tyrial]

Kinda takes away the luster of earning it.
Maybe people should hack coil just for the glamour.
keep justifying though.

Not exactly sure how you can even relate the two. With PvP win trading there are no game breaking exploits to the way anything is coded. These people just found a way to get matched up together. They're doing nothing different than the FCs who queue as 3 Full Parties for CT so that they don't have to deal with random PUGs. Should they be reported and banned as well? How about the people who queue up for in-progress dungeons only and leave if they don't get one with the desired number of bosses dead?

With the initial Coil exploits (yes, a true exploit) they were taking advantage of a bug in the coding to make Twintania stop doing anything but auto attacks all together. Other people were using a third party program to POS hack above her to avoid being hit by anything. These two instances are in no way even close to comparable.

If you're that hardcore into PVP that people "win trading" is giving you an ulcer then there's nothing stopping you from using these very forums or another avenue of your choice and setting up a group of pre-made parties that you can queue against to have reduced queue times and have legitimate PVP matches, thus letting you rank up faster and get marks at an increased rate.

And before you go grabbing the pitch fork and start accusing me of anything, my achievements are open to view. I don't PVP at all.