PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Logo]

Quick someone post questions about win trading on the live letter questions thread or something.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2097000

[Elvin]

how this question is debatable to the community really makes my brain bleed.

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

[Okazaki]

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

Just because the pvp system is not matured, is not a reason to neglect its growth. And certainly not by exploiting its matchmaking system

[65shion]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up with a really low rank. Where is that competitive scene you are talking about, are we really playing the same game?

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

[Logo]

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

This justifies ruining the system more how?

[Okazaki]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up -snip-

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

Excuse me , but people exploiting through dungeons also dont affect my experience directly, and SE is more than happy to punish those who abuse it. The queues take long because the pool of people legitimately doing pvp has decreased, and having people exploit the queing system to never show up on anyone elses game is a DIRECT result that does in fact affect my queue time/ experience as you call it.

[LalaRu]

Being PvP underpopulated does not legitimate exploits. Then we will get battlegrounds, and I really hope when that happens ALL ranks being reset to avoid have there all the people who illecitely farmed their rank, without even being any good on PvP. And please TOS updated (if needed) to have wintrades cause of account ban,

People good at PvP, will gain its deserved rank again, while the ones who have exploited their ranks, will keep at the rank they deserve.

[Sax]

Queuing with a premade 3 man group is way more of an exploit (and I use the term very loosely) than win trading, and amounts to the same thing - faster exp. Yet no one is flapping their gums about that. This is just another one of those "someone is doing something that is different to what I think they should be doing - ban pls" threads.

[Okazaki]

Queuing with a premade 3 man group is way more of an exploit (and I use the term very loosely) than win trading, and amounts to the same thing - faster exp. Yet no one is flapping their gums about that. This is just another one of those "someone is doing something that is different to what I think they should be doing - ban pls" threads.

How is that remotely relatable? you're not offering a loss on a platter by fighting a 3 or 4 man premade.

[Beetle]

Do people even realize how many PvP matches you actually need to win in order toget rank40...? (2000-4000 matches)
No casual or hardcore player would do it normally. It take you a year of pvping and queing in. Forget the rest of the game.
Why buy moral gear everytime you unlock a rank when you can save up and spend it all on the best stuff at end rank.
Why Materia low ranked gear knowing your going to have to replace it soon.

Frontlines gonna be big fail because of the Job requirements and gear requirements and rank requirements. Way worse then Crystal Tower ques. Noone gonna be able to do frontlines after a month of release, just like normal pvp but times three.

Only 1% of the community even do PvP.

SE needs to remove how Ranks level you up in pvp. Fixing this is the biggest fix they could do and also let players que faster together reguardless of rank.