PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[LalaRu]

Being PvP underpopulated does not legitimate exploits. Then we will get battlegrounds, and I really hope when that happens ALL ranks being reset to avoid have there all the people who illecitely farmed their rank, without even being any good on PvP. And please TOS updated (if needed) to have wintrades cause of account ban,

People good at PvP, will gain its deserved rank again, while the ones who have exploited their ranks, will keep at the rank they deserve.

[Sax]

Queuing with a premade 3 man group is way more of an exploit (and I use the term very loosely) than win trading, and amounts to the same thing - faster exp. Yet no one is flapping their gums about that. This is just another one of those "someone is doing something that is different to what I think they should be doing - ban pls" threads.

[Okazaki]

Queuing with a premade 3 man group is way more of an exploit (and I use the term very loosely) than win trading, and amounts to the same thing - faster exp. Yet no one is flapping their gums about that. This is just another one of those "someone is doing something that is different to what I think they should be doing - ban pls" threads.

How is that remotely relatable? you're not offering a loss on a platter by fighting a 3 or 4 man premade.

[Okazaki]

Because you're stacking the odds in your favour vs. those who are solo queuing 'as intended'. Except in this case, where you could be win trading, you've just screwed a group of randoms that followed the way you think it should be played. You can't pick and chose. If win-trading is an exploit, then anyone who is not solo queuing and making 3 ppl premades to give themselves a distinct advantage are also cheating.'

As for the whole prestige argument, you could quite conceivably lose your way to rank 40. Guess you should ban bads too...

If you think team work is exploiting a system of any kind, I dont think the multiplayer environment is going to go that far for you.... there is a reason the pvp is 2 teams, this isnt a free for all....

[Beetle]

Do people even realize how many PvP matches you actually need to win in order toget rank40...? (2000-4000 matches)
No casual or hardcore player would do it normally. It take you a year of pvping and queing in. Forget the rest of the game.
Why buy moral gear everytime you unlock a rank when you can save up and spend it all on the best stuff at end rank.
Why Materia low ranked gear knowing your going to have to replace it soon.

Frontlines gonna be big fail because of the Job requirements and gear requirements and rank requirements. Way worse then Crystal Tower ques. Noone gonna be able to do frontlines after a month of release, just like normal pvp but times three.

Only 1% of the community even do PvP.

SE needs to remove how Ranks level you up in pvp. Fixing this is the biggest fix they could do and also let players que faster together reguardless of rank.

[Logo]

Do people even realize how many PvP matches you actually need to win in order toget rank40...? (2000-4000 matches)

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Why must everything be instant?

[Okazaki]

Why must everything be instant?

Exactly this, this is something that is supposed to require an effort.

And how Tyrial said something about comparing this to coil, I recall that coil bug basically making twintania not attack back, that and win trading are very very similar in that respect.

[muwa]

Why must everything be instant?

Why do you think 4000 wins (7000-8000 matches, if the matchmaking works correctly) is a reasonable amount?

I can't think of another pve-focused game that asks as much time to get to the highest level in pvp.
Even in vanilla wow the grind to rank 16 was less ridiculous.

[Rapoza]

Just start calling every ilvl100 u see a wintrader, only thing u can do about it right now

[Yumi_umi]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop

I had a few i100 smns and drgns pvp against me and my random team of pve geared and i70-i90 groups.
Let's just say they wrecked us and anyone who was against them.
Their dps was off the charts lol usually resulting in 1 more digit than the other dps. I used attunement , sacred prism and got melted like as if i was naked and had no gear on.
So yes their wintrading gear affected my game and the other 3 on my team. It wasn't fun and especially wasn't fun to face them a few times in a row. Also depending on time, langauge settings and i think roles & rank u can usually get less than 5 min qeues.
So it sucks when those win traders decides to pvp against other ppl with low gear.