Solutions to stop speedrunning

[Coth_X]

Think positive, most players can determine others capable to SR or not. Maybe just because you look good so others will want to SR with you. ^^;

IMO saving 10min is not important in a single run, but everyone max out their performance really exciting and less boring for repeating dungeons.

Well sometimes I don't mind going really quick, but I prefer to be absolutely wipe free and all it takes is one wipe on a SR to more or less invalidate the whole point of doing it.

[Staris]

Well sometimes I don't mind going really quick, but I prefer to be absolutely wipe free and all it takes is one wipe on a SR to more or less invalidate the whole point of doing it.

I doubt that.
Having farmed all the myth for my animus with brayflox first 2 speedruns, I have wiped about twice.
With our runs taking about 4.5 - 5.5 minutes each, I can say it saved me tons and tons time.

[Coth_X]

I doubt that.
Having farmed all the myth for my animus with brayflox first 2 speedruns, I have wiped about twice.
With our runs taking about 4.5 - 5.5 minutes each, I can say it saved me tons and tons time.

On farm, yes total time would be more or less trivially affected.

But if you're going in for one dungeon on something like roulette, any wipe is more time spent.

Hell, just wiping on diablo cause person on door duty was too slow adds a few mins, and i've been in runs where everything was fine until that point and we had 2 wipes before finishing.

My issue is everyone wants to rush rush rush. I don't necessarily want to do AK, or pharos, or fricking tam tara again for the millionth time, but the time saved vs what time could be lost, I'd prefer to just take it easy. That and I have a shoulder problem and extended fast play actually wears it out (._.)

[Denyer87]

As a tank i'm not a fan of speed running unless everyone knows their roles. I dont particularly enjoy SR or farming bray HM as last boss can drop opo minion AND has bloody good music.

I would rather get a duty done than wipe and besides, how are people supposed to learn if everyone wants to SR? Like for me, i'm recently new to coil as i couldnt get a static group before and all everyone wants to do is rush through. I've watched videos and read guides but i still have trouble if people do stuff i'm not expecting lol

I don't think my issues with SR are with the action itself as i'm all for getting something done efficiently and effectively however, i think my issues are more to do with people just expecting me to know the concept without ever having done it.

It affects my game because im yet to try coil 2 or ex primals because of bad experiences with coil 1 and other duties. That may sound whiney but people are quick to forget when they had to do it first time and were probably called noobs.

[Megido]

I don't think my issues with SR are with the action itself as i'm all for getting something done efficiently and effectively however, i think my issues are more to do with people just expecting me to know the concept without ever having done it.

It affects my game because im yet to try coil 2 or ex primals because of bad experiences with coil 1 and other duties. That may sound whiney but people are quick to forget when they had to do it first time and were probably called noobs.

Everything is on youtube. Its kind of old content so you cant really blame people for umm, expecting people to 'speedrun' coil 1, and you shouldnt worry about it either. People dont really expect much more of you ither than at least having seen a youtube video, and they are usually responsive when you say you are new but have seen a video. Since everybody was new at one point, you can think of those that still get mad from it yet keep using df/pf despite that as 'special people'. Its not your fault for being new, its their fault for not having a good LS or FC if they are so amazingly experienced. The fact they are so quick to flame probably has something to do with that.

[Denyer87]

Everything is on youtube. Its kind of old content

Yeah i studied videos of T1 until i knew i was confident in myself enough to do it. I just meant that you can study all you want but when someone wants to do something not shown on a video, then go mad cus you're not sure just irritates me. I'm not a lazy player as i have always researched every new duty before i try them but unfortunately there's always 1 jerk-off who ruins the experience from time to time.

If i use DF i dont SR unless the pt asks because it doesnt matter how “old” the content is, it's going to be new for someone. Thats why the PF is so good, if you wanna SR go search there and do it lol

[Sapphic]

To be honest the OP reads as saying.

"I do not like Speedruns, I do not want Speedruns SO no-one else should be able to do them."

Makes him worse than the players he calls out who want parties to Speedrun.

[Elyse]

Right. There will never be a way to allow i55 players to do the same dungeons as i100 people if they made the mobs too strong. There should be an advantage to having a high Ilvl in dungeons.

[Coth_X]

Right. There will never be a way to allow i55 players to do the same dungeons as i100 people if they made the mobs too strong. There should be an advantage to having a high Ilvl in dungeons.

Honestly either level sync should still be in effect for post 50 dungeons or...

I want i80+ 4man content please ; -;

Part of the reason SRs happen, is because we can completely overgear content. I'm not against people who want to SR either, but seriously, why are we getting HMs that we don't need?

Stone vigil Extreme mode anyone?

[Kaonis]

The problem of having i55 dungeons inhabited by i90 players trying to farm soldiery for their i100 gear or myth for their i100 weapon. Simply, speed-running is enabled by the low ilvl of the dungeons.

So much this. These dungeons are basically designed for someone who hit 50 yesterday and grabbed a handful of new gear, not for the vast majority of the playerbase who is sporting near full ilvl 90+ gear.