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    Alcyon1's Avatar
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Who decided that Speed Running without informing the party was a good thing? Yes I'm a horrible person for letting the tank drops if he tries without asking, I outright admit that. But if you think doing something that requires full attention from the rest of the party without informing them is a good thing, you're not too bright. Besides, if you're in the ROULETTE, meaning RANDOM PLAYERS, you should not expect a speed run to work nor should you expect everybody to be okay with trying it.

    Common policy : when you join a group of strangers, you are expected to do your job to clean the dungeon. And I don't expect a speedrun, I expect players at 100% capacity. Yesterday, via DR, I got a healer with 3.3K HP, A DRG with 3.7K HP and a BLM with 3.9K HP : I tanked pack per pack, period.
    Some players are on PS3 and cannot write fast, some players don't talk english, etc. You can't expect YOUR standards to be EVERYBODY standards, deal with it. If you are not happy, leave the group, but stop trolling them.

    again, your kind of players polluates the game.
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    Sheepy Sheepy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Who decided that Speed Running without informing the party was a good thing? Yes I'm a horrible person for letting the tank drops if he tries without asking, I outright admit that. But if you think doing something that requires full attention from the rest of the party without informing them is a good thing, you're not too bright. Besides, if you're in the ROULETTE, meaning RANDOM PLAYERS, you should not expect a speed run to work nor should you expect everybody to be okay with trying it.
    who decided it wasnt?


    who decided you stun ifrit
    who decided you stack for plumes
    who decided anything

    there-are-no-rules
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    Fuyuu Valeureux
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    Well, we both have it reversed.

    I personally think DF and Roulette mean you have to deal with random people/jerks and adapt to the current situation and party member style.
    Party Finder, on the other hand, you can actually force your play style to everyone.

    But, that is just my opinion, I am not Jesus.
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    Last edited by Fuyuu; 05-08-2014 at 04:47 AM.

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    Party Finder. "Full Run(s) -x- dungeon".

    /thread.
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    Roulette / Dungeon Finder groups tend run along the lines of majority rules. If most people are for speedrunning, you're going to speedrun. It's all about adapting to the group.

    If you want to force a group to your method, be it speed or slow, use party finder. That's what it's there for.
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinker View Post
    Roulette / Dungeon Finder groups tend run along the lines of majority rules. If most people are for speedrunning, you're going to speedrun. It's all about adapting to the group.

    If you want to force a group to your method, be it speed or slow, use party finder. That's what it's there for.
    Sorry, you have that 100% backwards. No one person or group has the right to buffalo someone in a randomly selected party (Duty Roulette/Finder). It's also quite presumptuous to think that everyone wants to speedrun in Duty Finder/Roulette. If you want to advertise speedruns in Party Finder, go crazy. If you or any other adrenaline addict want to try that in DF/DR, just pray you don't run across a tank or healer who isn't obessed with "efficiency".
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    I keep seeing people say "Forcing" and "Making" others do speed runs because "We don't have a choice". Poppycock!! No one is forcing you to do ANYTHING. If the tanks takes off without communication, stand your happy a$$ there and wait for him to die, prepare yourself for the incomming "WTF...bla bla" from him, then respond "Oh you want to speed run? Sorry I don't" or "Break the pulls up please" whatever.

    Yea yea, there will be strife, might even get voted out or the tank will leave. So what. It's a game not a job. Another one will come, prolly one who will understand the party setup better than the first dipstick and run it according to party skill level.

    When I pop in on tank, I first check everyone to see where they are at gear wise (this is in no way an indicator of their skill). Second I say hi! Then proceed to ask, speed or normal? If they say speed(provided gear supports it), I let them know how I pull it, then we get to work. If it fails, then we start over and I half pull. If they want normal, I am ok with that, I would rather complete the duty than waste time on wipes.

    It is your game time. Enjoy it, don't let some anonymous egghead behind a KB "force" you to play their way.


    I go in with the assumption that everyone is there for Soldiery, so I am prepared to run the whole duty.

    On a side note, I wan't to raise mah chocobo while I wait on duties on dps....plz.

    Syn
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    Last edited by Synestr; 05-08-2014 at 03:57 PM. Reason: moar werdz

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    By reviewing OP post, it seems the captioned "speedrunnning" is referring to "2boss myth run" ?

    I think the caption is misleading ^^; as OP's suggestions are talking about stopping ppl quit after 2nd boss?
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    Ignitius Dragonhart
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    I've gotten tired of speedrunning bray at this point my FC and I will just speed through the first 2 bosses of Haukke HM. Brayflox healing is just too much of a pain even in my i93 gear and I don't think I'm THAT bad of a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignitius View Post
    I've gotten tired of speedrunning bray at this point my FC and I will just speed through the first 2 bosses of Haukke HM. Brayflox healing is just too much of a pain even in my i93 gear and I don't think I'm THAT bad of a healer.
    Do your tank uses his CD for the 2 big pulls ? When I do, the first pull is really easy, the second big pull is a bit harder but nothing really dangerous.
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