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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    See, again I don't know of any other mmo where people speed run like they do in Final Fantasy.. there are mmo's where they move fast yes, but they still pull a group, beat the crap out of it, and before it's done will grab the next group, but ONLY if we can handle it. In Final Fantasy, they run and pull the first 5 or 6 groups of mobs, then aoe all of them down, and move on, sometimes even before the groups are done... reason, the challenge is not there to make you have to pull groups slower and cc and all of that.

    Tank gear progression was more about CC, whether it's needed or not per group, not I geared up and now can pull 30 mobs insted of 15 mobs...

    There are certain spots where the speed run method can't work, you won't pull multiple Dulhannas (because if they do their big attacks it could kill the tank), or in Pharos, multiple zombie pulls because of a healer in it, and it's things like that they need to do.. increase the damage output, increase the mobs hp, and have more pats, and have pats that maybe link with other groups that are not on the normal path kinda thing.
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Simply delay next patch for 3months. ^^ everything is too rush now.
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    Amardis Amariyo
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    ppl speed run because the content they speed run are NOT meant for them ilvl wise, but meant for them reward wise
    thats all there is to it :P
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    Goji Degotye
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    Twintania
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    Botanist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Geobryn View Post
    ppl speed run because the content they speed run are NOT meant for them ilvl wise, but meant for them reward wise
    thats all there is to it :P
    That's definitely part of the problem. Dungeons are too easy but the alternatives are CT or coil. I would llove for the next 3-4 dungeons hm to be around ilvl 70-80.

    And for everything lower, lvlsynch.
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    VallisRaine's Avatar
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    Mason Asher
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 50
    Make it where when 2-3 parties of mobs are together they can LB something no tank could survive!

    on a side note i like speed runs with the low amount of tomes that drop its hard to farm lol
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    Sajah Steelarm
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I'd be kinda into an ilevel sync for this purpose, but I know people wouldn't be super fond of it.
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    Coth Ex
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I don't understand the people who argue against level sync as "we hit 50 and are supposed to feel powerful".

    I'd much rather have I've hit 50 and now i can do i50 dungeons for i60 gear, and then get i70 gear from i60 dungeons, so that I can get i80 gear to do i80 dungeons so I can get i90 gear to do i90 dungeons.

    But the problem is ilevel. In a game where we hit level 50 as max level, and we can already hit level 110 with gear, what would be the point of increasing the level cap. Especially since we don't even have any real i70, i80, or even i90 4 man content.
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    Comrade Questions
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 50
    It seems to me the biggest problem is SE requiring so much grinding to begin with. People wouldn't pressure so hard for speedruns if it weren't 95% of the people doing the dungeons, because while a new person to the dungeon might be looking for a piece of loot or something, the rest of the community is grinding it ad-naseum several hundred times for myth and/or the weekly soldiery caps.

    I dunno, I get unltimately the real reason for grind requirements on repetitive content is to stretch that content, but I dunno, I think this game is too mindless-grind aside from Coil. And I know FF has a long history of being king of the grind and all, but I think there's better ways to implement it. In fact, I like the idea of solo daily quests better for most of the 'grind' stuff that way it'd be a little more segmented in what/why people are running specific content; as-is, the 'dailies' just don't give enough reward to choose them over doing dungeons.
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    Amardis Amariyo
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ComradeQuestions View Post
    In fact, I like the idea of solo daily quests better for most of the 'grind' stuff that way it'd be a little more segmented in what/why people are running specific content; as-is, the 'dailies' just don't give enough reward to choose them over doing dungeons.
    god no! no more dailies .... unless they are leve style (aka buffered dailies), that way you can atleast choose when you want to do them
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Currently speedrun is just optimizing your performance, why have to speed down when not necessary?
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