Tanks/Threat/lowlevels Please fix this.

[Coth_X]

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I know how to pld tank, because that was my first lvl 50. Pld is boring, not because of just flash, but because they have 1 combo. And yes, i'd agree with a flash overhaul. I'd also agree with a 3rd skill to follow riot blade so that plds have a real offtank combo.

BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE THAT AFFECTS ONLY 4 DUNGEONS IN THE GAME.

Is that clear enough for you? Changing shield oath to lvl 30 does nothing for the first 3 dungeons, or a gld in haukke manor at 28-29 or toto/halatali. It also doesn't affect anything after stone vigil because you'd already have shield oath anyways, nor the huge amount of pre30 hests. Oh and it doesn't do anything to post 50 dungeons either.

Go figure out why you are almost losing hate and then get back to us.

If I'm not having an issue in just those 4 dungeons, and if I can tank anything pre 30 as a pld, which is what roulette usually dumps me in, then this change isn't necessary.

[Wintersandman]

I'd also agree with a 3rd skill to follow riot blade so that plds have a real offtank combo.

I want this as well. Warriors have 2 combos and one of those 2 combo's has 2 separate outcomes so you could almost call it 3. Paladins have 1 and a 1/2 combo's.

[Coth_X]

I want this as well. Warriors have 2 combos and one of those 2 combo's has 2 separate outcomes so you could almost call it 3. Paladins have 1 and a 1/2 combo's.

RoH gives an atk down debuff, while war has a slashing resist and dmg debuff.

Not sure what a 3rd pld attack could do other than just straight dps. Also, if they are true OTing, then that probably means no shield swipe procs for tp management.

[Wintersandman]

RoH gives an atk down debuff, while war has a slashing resist and dmg debuff.

Not sure what a 3rd pld attack could do other than just straight dps. Also, if they are true OTing, then that probably means no shield swipe procs for tp management.

I know what RoH does. I am just saying another full combo would be nice off tanking or not. As a warrior you have more tools and can use the combo based on the situation.

[Coth_X]

I know what RoH does. I am just saying another full combo would be nice off tanking or not. As a warrior you have more tools and can use the combo based on the situation.

Sorry I wasn't intending to state it that way. Context lost through text.

I kind of think that and hopefully they will do it in later expansions, but a job should get traits for its corresponding cross class skills. Pld has a large mp pool, that is largely used for flash, but maybe more could be done with that. Maybe give an enhancement to self cures for enmity, or pld gets a small chance of a free SS if mercy stroke hits etc. I think that would be great for all jobs.

As for pld dps, then the attack following riot blade could be "rune strike" or "mp attack" from the old days that consumes mp to deal dmg/crit. Would prob consume tp if uncomboed, but have enhanced potency but consume mp if used after riot blade, maybe x2 or x3 the mp that riot blade gives or the third attack could increase crit chance against enemy for a small window maybe like 6 secs worth.

Idk, something more than 1,2,3 (._.)

[Kitru]

Not sure what a 3rd pld attack could do other than just straight dps.

There was an interesting notion suggested by someone in another thread that I can't remember wherein a new t3 attack provided the PLD with a buff that augmented one of their attacks. The more popular options are Circle of Scorn and Flash. If it were Circle of Scorn, I would expect it to be something like a consumed buff that stacks up 3 times that increases Circle of Scorn damage by 33% (beefs up PLD AoE damage as well as ST damage). If it were Flash, I'd expect it to cause Flash to deal damage (either consumed and give Flash 200 potency or not consumed but lasts 10 secs and give it 100 potency).