Being Gendered Correctly

[Niwashi]

Whoh, long thread and I skipped a couple pages in the middle. Just a couple points:

EVERY player who has a female character has chosen to portray a female character, and the pronouns for females in English are she/her/hers.
EVERY player who has a male character has chosen to portray a male character, and the pronouns for males in English are he/him/his.
The player's real-life gender has absolutely no bearing on either of those statements.

If you go with the character's gender to choose your pronouns, then you are absolutely guaranteed to be correct. It may or may not be the only correct answer, but it is always a correct answer. For instance, when I (a female player) am playing Y'kayah or Navarre (male characters), then either set of pronouns is correct. (I prefer male pronouns in that case, as calling Y'kayah or Navarre "she" just sounds weird. But I can accept either as correct.) On the other hand, when I (as a female player) am playing Dylise or Tatala (female characters), then the only correct set of pronouns is the female ones. Similarly, when a male player has female characters, both sets of pronouns are correct, but when he plays male characters, only the male pronouns are correct.

So to everyone who's been arguing about what the default language usage is for when there's no information to indicate gender either way: Your arguments are irrelevant, because that's not the case here. (Well, it may be the case if you're talking about a /shout conversation where you don't see the character and can't tell from the name, but the OP was talking about when she's actually in a party with people and they still got it wrong.) If you know the character's gender, then you know of one correct set of pronouns, and another that may or may not also be correct. Go with the pronouns you know to be correct, i.e. the ones matching the character you're talking about.


Another point, this time regarding the likelihood of male players: Currently, video game players overall are only slightly more likely to be male. It's very close to half and half. However, it's the Action and Sports game genres that draw the most male players. Those two genres are overwhelming male dominated. But how do you suppose that males, who overwhelmingly dominate the most popular genre and another of the top few genres, are only barely hanging on to a majority overall? It's because other genres, like say RPGs for instance, have more female players. Face it guys, you're the ones in the minority here, and it's only the fact that most of the women you've been playing with haven't bothered to correct you that has allowed you to nurture the illusion that you're still the majority you may have been a few decades ago.

[Edellis]

As well as some not so hilarious videos of 50 men jumping on one guy for hitting a woman that clearly deserved it (guess that's the mens fault though). But what I was really hoping for were your thoughts on the toilet seat situation. ^_^

The toilet seat? Who cares? In the mornings, when im tired and havent had my coffee, i'm going to sit my ass down on that toilet seat and swingset while i piss.

You're using the toilet. Nobody is supposed to know anyway.

[whiskeybravo]

LOL, I forget what that's from but I remember someone talking about eating a bowl of cereal like that or something. Hilarious.

South Park episode about Sir John Harrington XD

[infinitezero]

The toilet seat? Who cares? In the mornings, when im tired and havent had my coffee, i'm going to sit my ass down on that toilet seat and swingset while i piss.

You're using the toilet. Nobody is supposed to know anyway.

I was just messin' around. Glad to see you have a sense of humor about it as well though. lol

[RegnumMagik]

This is over dramatic. Theres absolutely no good reason to clearify your gender to the public on a MMO other than attention grabbing.

A good troll thread.

[Marowit]

Everyone got baited so hard. Notice how the OP has disappeared from this thread?

[Edellis]

Who cares, these are fun reads mang

[TeaTimeBear]

Everyone got baited so hard. Notice how the OP has disappeared from this thread?

In summation:"You idiots will argue over anything"

[SchalaZeal]

But how do you suppose that males, who overwhelmingly dominate the most popular genre and another of the top few genres, are only barely hanging on to a majority overall? It's because other genres, like say RPGs for instance, have more female players. Face it guys, you're the ones in the minority here

A survey from EQ2 revealed that female players were 21% of surveyed players. Participating in the survey was anonymous and rewarded with some event ingame item.

So while you might be right that sports and action games are male-dominated genres. Those genres DIDN'T EVEN EXIST in the 1980s. It was platformers, prototypes of future RPGs, adventure games and games with guns where everything can kill you, also beat them up and cheap (as in 'life is cheap, no/few power-ups, you die in one hit') shoot them ups.

When people talk about "real gamers", they usually EXCLUDE the "dudebros" who only play sports games and CoD. And the other genres are still male dominated.

Oh and btw, trans people are overrepresented in gaming, especially MMOs, compared to their population ratio (which is only 0.2%).

[necrosis]

All I can say is I am surprised this is what rubs people the wrong way now a days.