skill-/spellspeed, why is it still here?

[Lemon8or]

macro

Never ever macro for monk. Even worse is that you macro with wait commands.

more attacks for Perfect Balance

I'm at base skillspeed and have no problem fitting 5 attacks into Perfect Balance.

[abzoluut]

White mages would like a word with you.

Yeh, for whm it's an okay stat at best I guess. Point is, it's just there on all the gear where so little jobs really want it. Sometimes it's a matter of picking your poison..

[Tiggy]

OP, Spell speed is amazing for BLM, and skill speed is pretty useful from what my monk friends are telling me. Are they useful on every class? Heck no. Intelligence and Piety are pretty useless on Warrior but they don't need to buff it. Every class has different stats that are better for that specific class.

[jars]

White mages would like a word with you.

bad ones, maybe

OP, Spell speed is amazing for BLM, and skill speed is pretty useful from what my monk friends are telling me. Are they useful on every class? Heck no. Intelligence and Piety are pretty useless on Warrior but they don't need to buff it. Every class has different stats that are better for that specific class.

there is no intellect on warrior gear. spell/skill speed is on all class gear and for most classes it is a waste

[Kelthos]

Never ever macro for monk. Even worse is that you macro with wait commands.

Im not talking for endgame content just for FATES etc can just push the one button and watch tv or something else, mainly just to be lazy in some fights, but obviously for endgame stuff if you have to move around it wouldnt work.

I'm at base skillspeed and have no problem fitting 5 attacks into Perfect Balance.

With GCD < 2 sec you can get one more in, I know its not huge difference but I just enjoy attacking faster, it makes combat more exciting.

[WingsofWar]

i like my skill speed on my pld, i personally wish there was a bit more to bring GCD down as its pretty nice to have faster combo actions to have especially during tank swaps. as far as secondary stats go i prefer SS over crit, but determn over SS.

on my whm i noticed a big improvement in healing rates with better SS melded into my gear, but found with my smn and sch SS was a bust. I haven't leveled BLM to see how SS changes the quality of battle.

The way i see SS played out is secondary, Hit hard first, then hit fast and find a balance between the two.

[Pylfer]

OP, Spell speed is amazing for BLM, and skill speed is pretty useful from what my monk friends are telling me. Are they useful on every class? Heck no. Intelligence and Piety are pretty useless on Warrior but they don't need to buff it. Every class has different stats that are better for that specific class.

Skill Speed is pretty detrimental to monks in fights that last longer than 5 minutes or so. Invigorate only does so much.

Take the Twintania fight (seeing that most people can access it and can relate), within the first few minutes of the fight (up to the first or second conflag) if you don't get put into a conflag to stop/slow your DPS 400+ skill speed will, generally, put you to 0 TP. The round about it obviously more TP management such as waiting for greased lightning to hit 1sec before hitting Snap Punch/Demolish.

[Lemon8or]

With GCD < 2 sec you can get one more in, I know its not huge difference but I just enjoy attacking faster, it makes combat more exciting.

And how much SS is needed to do that? You're sacrificing so much Determination and Critical to achieve that high of a number just so you'd run into TP starvation later on. And when you're TP-starved, you have to wait before you can attack again. Isn't that less exciting?
Here's an analogy: Do you want to hit fast but hit like a wet noodle for 5 minutes or hit hard, just a little bit less fast for 8 minutes?

Take the Twintania fight (seeing that most people can access it and can relate), within the first few minutes of the fight (up to the first or second conflag) if you don't get put into a conflag to stop/slow your DPS 400+ skill speed will, generally, put you to 0 TP.

Even at base skillspeed, I was running in the neighborhood of 300-400 TP by the time divebomb starts.

Spellspeed and skillspeed are two stats that only gets better the more you put into it. 1 Determination is just as good DPS buff no matter how much you put in while 1 Crit gets worse the more you put into it while 1 Sspeed becomes better the more you put into it.

Spellspeed is good for BLM because you have unlimited MP as resource. Skillspeed is useless because we all have the same TP regen no matter the skillspeed. Determination increases average damage. Crit increases critical hit rate per point so there's no diminishing returns there. Skillspeed increases attack speed but does not increase TP regen so you're running out of TP way earlier than you normally would.

[Lunavi]

What are you talking about? Spellspeed is awesome for me as BLM.. I have said this since 2.0. Just wait until next level cap. Spellspeed and skillspeed are two stats that only gets better the more you put into it. 1 Determination is just as good DPS buff no matter how much you put in while 1 Crit gets worse the more you put into it while 1 Sspeed becomes better the more you put into it.

Also beside pure numbers it improves my Quality of Life as my casttimes without it are RIDICULOUS. With as much Spellspeed as possible I can finish a higher percentage of my spells without having to move out of bad stuff. And that helps boosting my longtime DPS.

[wizzed]

Hell no. It's a good stat and my scholar is based off spell speed and piety.

A great way to fix it is to allow cds to inherit spell speed as well.