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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70

    skill-/spellspeed, why is it still here?

    So, why are these stats in the game again?

    The only think I can think of is that they tried to have a fun stat to go for other than the "normal" route for let's say a SCH (which would be crit), or tanks who'd like parry or maybe crit too (for WARS pretty nice with 2.2's stat allocation). It miserably failed..

    Is it too much for SE to admit the stat is a dead stat, but it takes too much time to figure out what to do with it (remove it!?)?

    Every job avoids it because for every job it means avoiding it is better than having it. This has been the case since August 27th 2013.

    Does anyone have an idea why it's still in the game? Did SE mention somewhere they "were looking in to it"? Because we know how that story goes.. xD
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    Last edited by abzoluut; 04-30-2014 at 08:03 PM.

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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    It needs to proportionally scale TP regeneration alongside it's current benefit... as it is, most players attempt to minimize or marginalize it's use because it's most optimal. All this does is leave the combat feeling sluggish.
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    Aija Dal
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Spellspeed is a fantastic stat for black mages.
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    Archs Crysta
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    To give you an illusion of choice.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Spell Speed is fine. Skill speed is questionable at best.
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    I think they could rework them and make them more useful. As others have said, have not only TP regeneration go with skill speed but also up auto attack speed. Maybe have skill speed and spell speed impact DoTs and HoTs, so if you get enough of the stat you can start to get extra tics making those skills/spells more powerful.
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    Shio Ban
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Is it too much for SE to admit the stat is a dead stat, but it takes too much time to figure out what to do with it (remove it!?)?

    Try using WHM with "basic" level 50 gear.
    AF gear, 45-50 dungeon accessories.

    Then try WHM with an optimal balance of SS/Crit and get back to me.


    The difference is HUGE.

    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Every job avoids it because for every job it means avoiding it is better than having it.
    Finding a balance of Speed versus Det/Crit can work to your advantage.

    There's a point where SS is pretty much pointless, finding the exact point where your GCD benefits then leaving it at that hovering point works fine. Completely stacking SS is pointless, yes. Avoiding it altogether is even more pointless.
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    Juni Esura
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    Spellspeed is a fantastic stat for black mages.
    and only black mages. everyone else hates the stat
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    Akira Pink
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    Archer Lv 50
    idk it seems a bit underrated. You don't bottom out on tp in every fight.

    Caster dps never runs out of mana anyways so they are just getting rotations for free.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    While I'm not sure why WAR gets a lot of skill speed, some people say its for more dps. uh... what? Tank dps? lol I do feel that it can make more of a contribution to PLD since their stun is on a global. Imagine if you had access to a stun every two seconds! (exaggerating the possibility) but that would be fantastic. In its current state its pretty useless since you need a lot and we probably won't be seeing any potential until maybe the ilvl 150's. It just takes too much for a minuscule increase in weapon skill recast.
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