skill-/spellspeed, why is it still here?

[Gormogon]

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

From what I can tell in this thread the primary reasons speed is hated is because it doesn't make numbers go big. Which is funny and sad. BLM while being burstiest benefits the most from spell speed. People just can't seem to get why.

I think I would have better luck asking the Eye of Sauron if he can see why kids love cinammon toast crunch.

[rhemi1]

a bunch of irrelevant information

People don't 'stereotype' SCHs into Crit/Det builds, people gear for Crit/Det because they're our best secondary stats.

Spell Speed scales so terribly that it's not even worth gearing for, especially given that SCHs have access to several tools that allow us to bypass the normal cast bar timer and not be as reliant in chain casting as a WHM. If you're using Selene, you more than likely have enough Spell Speed than you really need already.

Crit works in tandem with Galvanize shields, and gives your fairy more crit chance...which is more Spell Speed. There's a reason we don't gear for it; We get plenty via procs and buffs. Det isn't so hot, but you'll appreciate those larger numbers when you get to content where your tanks are getting slammed with enormously large amounts of damage (T9).

I mean, grats on solo healing Titan EX, content that was always easily solo healable since EX lacks the one thing that made solo healing Titan slightly difficult (stacking stomps). But that doesn't mean your build is good, or should be encouraged. If anything, you're just promoting more bad SCH play, which we really don't need more of. There's already plenty of awful ones around.

[Yukiko]

The problem we have here is same as we have seen on other content:
Square Enix calculates from a max number gathered of points possible and scales down the content...
You seen that way on calculation of housing prices!

That means: you not only need full focus on SS gear in each part, but also Selen Buff and Food (have I forgotten something?). Well... when really maxed everything on SS you indeed feel the difference with each job, but the question is what you sacrify for it and when testing on dummys, you will see the gain istn that great for the effort... only worth on some jobs, but even so to sacrify crit is a big loss...

[muwa]

From what I can tell in this thread the primary reasons speed is hated is because it doesn't make numbers go big. Which is funny and sad. BLM while being burstiest benefits the most from spell speed. People just can't seem to get why.

I think I would have better luck asking the Eye of Sauron if he can see why kids love cinammon toast crunch.

BLM has infinite resources, but it's the only class with that luxury.
Other classes have skills to recover some of their MP/TP, but they still spend more than they can get back .

[Ryihito]

I've solo healed in Titan Ex, I've cleared content up till T8 inclusive, I've been researching and came up with my own build that I'm with piety/spell speed. I don't see why this is bad.

People stereotyping Scholars to have Crit/Det build are sad.

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDT4bNLla8

All because you can do it that way doesn't mean it's the best way.

[wizzed]

All because you can do it that way doesn't mean it's the best way.

There is no best way to play a class. Even if you have the "World's Best Scholar Build" and you are not up to standard, you will still be shitty.

I am voicing my opinion, and somebody out there is saying my build is the worst. I absolutely don't feel that way at all. I'm still building my Scholar with no crits, I'm looking into more piety all the time, any spell speed that comes along the way is good. But Critical is definitely not on my list.

[saber_alter]

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there is a best way to play a class. min-maxing exists. perfect rotations/flowcharts exists. saying there isn't is aspiring to mediocrity.

oh, you have solo healed titan EX? big deal. its been done before, its been done a myriad of times. it will be done again.

its a mediocre build because it focuses on a stat that doesn't support you in a drawn out fight. unlike the other stats (like critical hit rate) all skill speed does is drain your mp/tp for what? so you can cast spells/attack slightly faster than normal...its a dps/hps increase, but it makes you incredibly bursty because you drain all of your resources faster than everyone else.

whats the phrase? "a fire that burns twice as hot burns for half as long." the faster you attack, the faster you use your assets, and the faster you run out of said assets to use.

the same goes for any job that isn't black mage.

From what I can tell in this thread the primary reasons speed is hated is because it doesn't make numbers go big. Which is funny and sad. BLM while being burstiest benefits the most from spell speed. People just can't seem to get why.

I think I would have better luck asking the Eye of Sauron if he can see why kids love cinammon toast crunch.

its hated because its utterly detrimental. i don't want a stat that results in me being TP starved not even half way through a long fight.

why do you think all the monks are crying? greased lightning boosts skill speed, they end up tp staved if they lapse in tp regulation for even half a dozen GCDs.

[lxSch]

I've solo healed in Titan Ex, I've cleared content up till T8 inclusive, I've been researching and came up with my own build that I'm with piety/spell speed. I don't see why this is bad.

People stereotyping Scholars to have Crit/Det build are sad.

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDT4bNLla8

My achievement, but i didn't stack it much - it can go much higher. Having this much spell speed makes healing content and generally playing much easier compared to relying on crit.
With an off-gcd energy drain i don't have a problem with mana.

[Shneibel]

My SMN right now has 500 Spell Speed, this is way too much isn't it? I was thinking of trying to phase that down to 300 or so.

and SMN does not need SS that much, tbh

[Rhas]

You know what's funny about this statement? A White Mage at level 30 gets a skill which doubles her spell speed stat for 10 seconds and even THAT only has the tiniest boost to overall casting speed and recast. In my case it's literally shaving off zero-point-one second from a Raise spell for having 800~ spell speed from 400~. I'm all for letting people build their characters however they want, but really I hope the maths works out better in your case than it does in mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDT...8&noredirect=1

nuff said.