DF one big cess pool for practice

[Macka]

I think you missed my point. I don't mind new people in PF or DF. My point is you're going to have a bunch of new players in DF too, but the problem is EVERYONE treats DF as practice, which is part of the issue with people dropping after 1-2 wipes. Yes, of course some of them do it because they expected a quick win.

DF isn't for practice/learning only, nor is it for 100% perfect wins. But in the state it is now, it's mostly useless for the harder content. I don't mind burning through a few groups who are learning or whatever, but when you can do 100s of runs with 0 wins, that's wrong. DF is there for people to get groups, not practice. The "accepted" standard as someone put it, is not. It's just certain people wanting to change the role of something based on how they see it.

So what happens when 7 people use pf to form a learning group and decides to que for the 8th and its happened to be you lol.

[Macka]

So what happens when 7 people use pf to form a learning group and decides to que for the 8th and its happened to be you lol.

On a real note my only problem with duty finder is people expecting speedruns in dungeons, tanks skipping mobs in low level dungeons making new players lose exp and achievements.