Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
You can queue for any duty you've unlocked, whether you've previously cleared it or not.

No amount of "this is how it works on the NA/EU/JP servers" will change that.

If anybody has a problem with getting new players up in their business, then own it. If anybody's actually an elitist whose valuable time is wasted by these awful new players, then the burden should be on them to form their own parties to quickly clear content. God knows they should have the FC and LS support to quickly fill an entire party who utterly destroys content if they're so damn awesome.

And if you still have a spot open on your Titan Extreme party or what not? Queue in DF, pick up a random player, maybe someone who's new, and carry them. Because if you can't do that, you're a failure of an elitist: you're a scrub.
I think you missed my point. I don't mind new people in PF or DF. My point is you're going to have a bunch of new players in DF too, but the problem is EVERYONE treats DF as practice, which is part of the issue with people dropping after 1-2 wipes. Yes, of course some of them do it because they expected a quick win.

DF isn't for practice/learning only, nor is it for 100% perfect wins. But in the state it is now, it's mostly useless for the harder content. I don't mind burning through a few groups who are learning or whatever, but when you can do 100s of runs with 0 wins, that's wrong. DF is there for people to get groups, not practice. The "accepted" standard as someone put it, is not. It's just certain people wanting to change the role of something based on how they see it.

Also I won't carry someone, I've always felt people need to earn their wins. Same as I won't allow myself to be carried.