please revise ilvl req on df

[Crimson-Falcon]

the point from DF is using it for learning

while PF is used for clear/farm

[MurakumoMillennium]

the point from DF is using it for learning

Nuuuuuuupe.

Its not about gear. I've gone into lots of turn 1 runs with people that still wear AF1 gear. Obviously it was chosen that way because it can be cleared that way.

It is about gear. Those people shouldn't be wearing i50 gear in something that requires i70. And it was made that way because all pieces are weighted the same as far as item level is concerned, when in reality your left side pieces give significantly higher stats than the right side does yet are valued the same. You could meet the ilvl req just by covering yourself in high ilvl accessories and be totally useless stat wise, or upgrade your main items and be more useful despite not meeting ilvl requirements.

[Takeva]

It is about gear.

I have to continue to disagree. Content can be cleared, as long as the person knows what they are doing. But that wasn't really the point of my post.
You want a certain ilvl? Use party finder. It's silly to expect to always get a decent group in Duty Finder.

[warren-ragnarok]

the point from DF is using it for learning

while PF is used for clear/farm

THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS!!
i cannot agree with this person at all

Learning should occur any time you have the chance, not just DF. If a level 50 PLD doesn't know that he should have spirits within or the gear, maybe he wasnt informed how to find that information, or to get to the quests for it, people in duty finder shoulda informed him, or he should be asking questions to his fc/ls/random strangers.

PF was made for whatever you want to form, training parties, fun runs, farming, or just random stuff (imagination is your limitation)

now likewise, if you try to give him information and he refuses to listen, kick him to the curb and get a new person, but if you're not telling him and he doesn't know, you are just as much part of the problem (informing him of what he can do to get those skills/gear)

[Ryihito]

the point from DF is using it for learning

No. No it's not.