please revise ilvl req on df

[Assirra]

Wanna know something funny, go look at the ilevel reqs for coil, guess what? First turn is i70 req. And upping ilvl req will do nothing to solve people not bothering to learn how to play.

iLvl reqs are fine as is, you can beat anything at the set level, with reasonably skilled players.

I really have a hard time believing your can kill the adds from the final boss in manor HM in time if your dps was barely at the ilvl requirment point tbh.

[LunarEmerald]

Wanna know something funny, go look at the ilevel reqs for coil, guess what? First turn is i70 req. And upping ilvl req will do nothing to solve people not bothering to learn how to play.

iLvl reqs are fine as is, you can beat anything at the set level, with reasonably skilled players.

Eh. The extreme primals (excluding Leviathan) required ilvls are too low.

[Sessurea]

Eh. The extreme primals (excluding Leviathan) required ilvls are too low.

yh, still waiting for the world 1st titan extreme clear with everyone avg i67. ( of course, no echo buff allowed )

Honestly don't mind playing with ppl with entry level gear, but it can be a lot of pressure to clear certain dps checks, but that's ok too I guess.....

[Harmonium]

Oh and please add class restriction on ring etc. Yesterday i was with a pld full spirit with ring for healer lvl 36.

He got 3200 hp for the palace and that was horrible i was tanking everything with my monk because he was dying with two hit...

So did he was a tank ? I don't think so.

Please do something against that.

[Pyreflye]

Oh and please add class restriction on ring etc. Yesterday i was with a pld full spirit with ring for healer lvl 36.

I had some asshat twice in CT today wearing full crafting gear with an Allagan chest piece. Had 4500 hp.
First time he intentionally wiped us multiple times.
Second time, I warned the party about him and told them what he does. What happens? I get kicked.

[Danbo05]

Its duty finder, there are supposed to be derps. If there weren't derps, people wouldn't worry so much about doing duty finder, and party finder would go ignored.

On a serious note, the ilv for the coil turns are actually the most accurate ilv out of all dungeons/raids/trials in the duty finder. Except turn3. You can complete turn3 naked.

[Takeva]

Its not about gear. I've gone into lots of turn 1 runs with people that still wear AF1 gear. Obviously it was chosen that way because it can be cleared that way.

Some people just suck more then others. They just still need to learn.

Interesting fact: Did you know party finder was made for problems like yours. You should totally use it.

[Kuwagami]

Blahblahblah

People should know by now that the problem isn't "new players" in iL close to the minimum in dungeons. The dungeons (and HM/EX primals) are designed for these iL. If you go with an iL that's 20 points above, YOU are the one in fault.

As an example, ifrit HM is perfectly doable with a team in AF gear with GC weapon. If your tank is in this case, and if you rip off hate because you're iL93 and can't slow down to scale their hate generation, YOU are responsible for the eventual failing of the duty.

For your "problem" with T1 (tank with AF and myth jewels), it was far worse back in time when you could beat titan with no iL req and people were going in T1 with a mix of AF gear and AK gear. At least now they are forced to get the minimum iL required to even consider winning in T1, ie 70.


Oh and side note, for whoever said DF is used to learn : the fact that Levi/moggle EX can't be attended in PF proves that the PF was mostly intended for people to learn. Because you know, back in 2.0, a lot of people were bitching about beginners with no clue in DF for titan HM (mostly) who were ruining the "pro players" experience.
JP players used it that way, and afaik, their DF have a way higher success rate in the difficult encounter than ours.

[Gerolan]

If you want to set a minimum Ilvl for a dungeon, do it via party finder, the dungeons people are entering is more than fine Ilvl wise, as it's intended for that level.

[Issac]

Opposite opinion:

Abolish iLvl.

It's destructive to the community and fosters a hostile play environment.