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    Player
    Gerolan's Avatar
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    Seraphima Cyngosa
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Opposite opinion:

    Abolish iLvl.

    It's destructive to the community and fosters a hostile play environment.
    So very much this, Ilvl has created a new breed of toxic community that believe Ilvl equals skill
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Opposite opinion:

    Abolish iLvl.

    It's destructive to the community and fosters a hostile play environment.
    Wont change a dam thing. Then you have people in pf saying stuff like "At least darklight or equivalent, at least CT or equivalent, ect.
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    Gerolan's Avatar
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    Seraphima Cyngosa
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    Wont change a dam thing. Then you have people in pf saying stuff like "At least darklight or equivalent, at least CT or equivalent, ect.
    Latest Pf trend seems to have "must have animus Ilvl 90plus" for Brayflox,hala or lost city....
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    Wont change a dam thing. Then you have people in pf saying stuff like "At least darklight or equivalent, at least CT or equivalent, ect.
    Remember way back when, when everyone was doing CM for Philo and AK had terribad queues?

    Yeah..."Full Darklight and Relic" were the shout advertisements for everything...eventually became "Must have Relic+1 and some Myth gear"

    Good times...
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    Character
    Serefina Solfyre
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Opposite opinion:

    Abolish iLvl.

    It's destructive to the community and fosters a hostile play environment.
    Why should people not be allowed to choose who they play with?

    You're not forced to discriminate based on ilevel yourself, and you're not forced to join that person's party.
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    Limsa
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Some people want to wear crafted and slotted gear. iLvl stops this from happening. It forces this attitude, supported by ingame systems, that it's farm myth/sold and wear the same thing as everyone else or you can't come.

    It really is complete horse sh*t.
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    Legacy_Wolfwood's Avatar
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    ilvl wont do anything but prolong the newbies going in. seen ilvl 85+ go into garuda ex... tank blames healers for himself and 3 dps dying by not avoiding wicked wheel/vortex, getting his spiny stacks up, just eating everything to the face.

    Told him Benediction couldnt save them from that. He begs to differ that its the healers fault they cant move.

    ilvl doesn't=skill
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    ilvl wont do anything but prolong the newbies going in. seen ilvl 85+ go into garuda ex... tank blames healers for himself and 3 dps dying by not avoiding wicked wheel/vortex, getting his spiny stacks up, just eating everything to the face.

    Told him Benediction couldnt save them from that. He begs to differ that its the healers fault they cant move.

    ilvl doesn't=skill
    If you're a healer and don't know that you can't avoid wicked wheel (even sprinting well ahead of time they follow you) and then are blaming the tank for getting hit, then there's something you need to reevaluate. Now if you are taking about slipstream (which doesn't one shot anyone, so you should be able to heal through it anyway), get the attack names right because they do two different things. Slipstream is the only thing the tank can actively dodge (as opposed to passively at random) so if you're complaining about them taking other attacks...
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
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    you can't avoid Suparnas wicked wheel? I think you need to re evaluate as it is indeed avoidable. that is the correct name of the attack. vortex is the same thing. newbie dps sitting in the open or behind wrong sides of pillars get destroyed most of the time.

    maybe i've been in more strategies than you where the Ot pulls sup instead of chi or the team splits into the triangle formation. if thats the case, then sorry you didn't understand what i meant and that i didnt fully clarify.
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    Rumi Pachouli
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    iL has nothing to do with people going overboard on levi or falling to their deaths on titan.
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