Zoidac Weapon 2.28

[Sapphic]

Time consuming and Hard are the same thing. People have constantly as of late been trying to seperate the two. Regardless if it takes 60 hours to down Turn 9 for loot or farm myth for 60 hours for Animus, they both require 60 hards and are more difficult then something that takes 30 minutes minute to complete. The grind is already inherently more easy as it doesn't require to rely on the competency of 7 other players, just your persistence in completing it.

Time consuming and hard are NOT the same thing at all.

Something can take a chunk of time and be challenging and something can take a chunk of time and be faceroll. eg zerging low level fates compared to running coil 2. Yet in your logic, Coil 2 is easier....

[ispano]

Time consuming and hard are NOT the same thing at all.

Something can take a chunk of time and be challenging and something can take a chunk of time and be faceroll. eg zerging low level fates compared to running coil 2. Yet in your logic, Coil 2 is easier....

Well think about it for a second. Is it "easy" for YOU to grind fates for hours on end? You have to stop thinking about skill only, because i'm betting you have to distract yourself or take breaks or something to get past the tedium of it.

[Sapphic]

Well think about it for a second. Is it "easy" for YOU to grind fates for hours on end? You have to stop thinking about skill only, because i'm betting you have to distract yourself or take breaks or something to get past the tedium of it.

Doing something easy once, is not hard, it's easy. Doing the same thing 100 times doesnt suddenly make it harder, more difficult and in no way challenging. 683 FATEs (I kept count out of interest) it took to get my 12 ATMA. It's patience not difficulty that gets you the ATMA weapon.

[KingOfAbyss]

Doing something easy once, is not hard, it's easy. Doing the same thing 100 times doesnt suddenly make it harder, more difficult and in no way challenging. 683 FATEs (I kept count out of interest) it took to get my 12 ATMA. It's patience not difficulty that gets you the ATMA weapon.

Patience? In MMOs? In 2014?

Ain't nobody got time for that!

*Kudos for your atmas.

[Starlord]

Doing something easy once, is not hard, it's easy. Doing the same thing 100 times doesnt suddenly make it harder, more difficult and in no way challenging. 683 FATEs (I kept count out of interest) it took to get my 12 ATMA. It's patience not difficulty that gets you the ATMA weapon.

Testing your patience is a "form" of difficulty :P. Sometimes I like that, but if it gets ridiculous like it is now ( more than 50 hours to complete the FIRST part of it) then that's where I draw the line :P.

[KingOfAbyss]

Testing your patience is a "form" of difficulty :P. Sometimes I like that, but if it gets ridiculous like it is now ( more than 50 hours to complete the FIRST part of it) then that's where I draw the line :P.

I just hope you didn't do all these hours in one day.. must be tired.. rest is important for the blue bar on our xp..

[Sapphic]

I just hope you didn't do all these hours in one day.. must be tired.. rest is important for the blue bar on our xp..

Everquest 1, for my cleric relic, 36 hours straight camping Ragefire (boss needed in the epic chain). Then they changed it to spawn when needed :S Fun times as everyone accepted the huge camp times needed so instead of complaining we socialised. No, I couldnt do EQ1 style camps again XD